Two slow starts cost us

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  1. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what happened in the first twenty minutes.
    I'm reading a few blaming Wiseman and okay he didn't have the best starts but he can't mark three people. There was a few having ago at Mellis near me and they were saying he was losing his man and Etuhu was picking him up. Wiseman than had two to pick up.

    After twenty minutes we got in to it and played okay. Thought with a bit of luck we could have stuck ball away although Steele stopped a almost certain Goal for them.

    Second half. Same again came out slow and there full back got past O'brien and put a great ball in and Martin put it way. But like the first half we got back in to it and Cywka put a great shot in after a great run and I really think we could have had something out of the game after that with O'grady missing from 10/15 yard.

    Also Pedersen, got to be stronger. Almost got in but was strengthened.

    Wilsons got to take some stick for that team. derby lined up 4123. And when you go again there central three you have to be strong. They went with a DM rather than a AM and McCourt will take mark a man at all. So you've got Mellis whos okay with out the ball and Dawson who couldn't keep up with there spare man.

    Listening to Radio Sheffield on way back.
    A Barnsley caller called James phoned in and he was an Embarrassment for Reds fans. Sheffield United have Brian we have flipping James.
    We conceded from what he thinks wide so all of a sudden it as to be a Full backs fault. Didn't you watch the game James. You defend as a team James and we didn't do that today.
     
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    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    And for periods of the game, Derby looked very good.
     
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    I tell you what cost us. We are ****. Like the England cricket team are ****. League tables and scorecards don't lie.
     
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    Derby have won ten league games on the spin so yrs it is Danny Wilson'a fault.
     
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    No they haven't
     
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    No they haven't
     
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    No they haven`t, not quite. 8 out of 9 and a draw.

    They looked poor as well, which rather sums up the REDS at the moment.
     
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    Soz

    Derby County are shiite

    "The manager" is w@nk
     
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    Wiseman didnt go to the man when he was the last man, several times. Ethuhu might as well have been sitting with me.

    Players are ducking responsibility.
     
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    Maybe Dyson or another another west stander might want to say but a guy on Radio (one that made sense, not James Aka Conan) that he was offside a lot.
     
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    I didn't go to the game and I know the full backs were garbage, because everyone has said so. Apart from you.
     
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    James aka Conan was pretty accurate tonight Phil. We are abject, probably the worst team in the championship and definitely the worst Barnsley side since admin. In summary we are *****.
     
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    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    But its a team effort.
    I said at half time our right side were off it for 20 plus minutes and thats how I would see it. If Dawkins goes in Wiseman got to follow him. You can't have your centre backs in the middle and and you stuck wide with a gap between you.

    The full back sets up in line with the centre back and if he needs to leave the winger wide on the touch line so be it. Watched Chelsea and Liverpool when I got back and there full backs do the same.
     
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    I sat in the ESL in line with penalty spot, Ponty End, and witnessed Wiseman and Ethuhu being caught out time and again.

    I dont need you to quote someone off the radio. I saw it with my own eyes, time and again.
     
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    I think with the run we are on and the run Derby are on we were never going to win that match but in spite of all the poor performances from the usual suspects, with a bit of luck we could have got a draw today, taking as an example O'Grady's chance at the end, if the team had been doing well and playing with confidence i've no doubt he would have buried it. Hopefully come the end of the week things could look a lot clearer and maybe, just maybe we could be embarking on another cup run.
     
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    I think you've hit the nail on the head. We are ****. Goals for, goals against and points gained are quite useful statistics when assessing the crapness of football teams.
     
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    Yes. That is not rocket science. That is BASIC defending. Wiseman refused to come to the man when Ethuhu left him exposed. Many times. That's two players doing their own thing/ not doing their jobs. Schoolboy stuff. I don't need to watch Liverpool or Chelsea to know that.
     
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    So what does he do Fired.
    Either way hes stuffed according to you. Goes to the man then he leaves a gap between him a Ramage doesn't go and you aren't happy.
     
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    He goes to the man every time. He is the full back, the last man between attacker and goal... that is his job, The central defenders then have time to get back. If they don't get back in time, that's not his fault. He has closed down. I cant believe u asked the question.. basics.


    Instead he just stays in no mans land leaving the blame with ethuhu.
     

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