Who see/saw all the playing staff week in week out, day by day, and they Don't think RNL, Digby, Rose, or any of the others in the development team are good enough for a first team place, what makes the people on this forum think they are ?, i don't know if they are or not, its not my job to know, i just turn up to watch a football match on match day, but time and time again i see people on here calling for them to play, what are you seeing that 4 people earning a good living as football managers don't see ?,
We`ve been up against it since we came back up, managers tend to introduce youngsters when things are going alreight, Otherwise its chequebook time and loan upon loan of experienced players who generally dont give a toss.
Digby - injured. Wilson referenced him by name prior to the Leeds game so obviously he is keen to see him. RNL - been out on loan. I don't think Danny will have seen much of him. Rose - Has definitely had a lot of injuries this term and is probably down on his development. I don't think you can suggest Wilson has seen enough of them to write them off.
RNL is currently back at Oakwell due to a groin injury he sustained a few weeks ago in training. May go back to scunny once fit but may end up staying at Oakwell. I assume that's down to his loan finishing in January?
Of course the England manager in his age bracket thinks Digby is good enough. And lots of managers thought RNL good enough to offer contracts to. Danny will be looking at all our players and making judgements he will probably wait until they are fit to do so though...
The problem is we're almost always in a relegation scrap so the managers want to play tried and tested proven players. If you remember a few years back when we were safe with a few games to spare under Robins he played several of the youngsters but it doesn't happen often enough. Sooner or later someone's got to have the balls to play them in a relegation battle or we'll end up losing them for next to nothing
I don't doubt any of the development squad are good enough to play against players of their age group, thats the standard they're at, what i do doubt is that their good enough to play at Championship level, and the reason i doubt that is because qualified football managers who work with them every day doubt their good enough at this moment in time otherwise they'd be playing in the first team, in my opinion i think they've been given contracts based future potential rather the present ability, if that potential is being developed and realised i have no idea, and i can't see how members of this forum would know more then the coaching staff Next season they'll be able to play in a mid table to top half team at a level the should be able to thrive at.
Aside from the fact that you've referred to a trio of injured youngsters (which kind of limits Wilson's ability to judge/pick them), I think you're giving too much credit to messrs Hill and Flitcroft. So qualified they were, that they carelessly lost the best management gig they'll ever get by - in part - being unable to recognise the talents of certain players, or just plain ignoring them. And sticking with their mates. Then recruiting a plethora of loanees who proved to be no better than the dross they'd already recruited permanently.
plenty of replys but none answering my question, what makes you think these young players are good enough to play at this level i see lots of post saying they should be in the first team but no-one seems to be able to explain why.
was the fact he sent him out to get 30 games on the spin scandelous also, Flitcroft thought he needed to develop by playing games at a lower level, what makes you think he would have benefitted more from playing against championship players ? by the way i'm not looking for a argument in any way just a debate and for people to explain why they feel their better at juding young players then what people who get paid to do it are ?
If my memory is correct hadn't he just had a really good game, in the championship, against championship players, was baffling sending him out on loan after that.
Mate, keep up will you. The players you are still referring to are unfit/injured, one of them has recently been on loan. So 'qualified' manager Danny Wilson is unable to select them, or judge them even. And as for members of this forum knowing more than the coaching staff, I can't see where anyone is suggesting that. All I can see, is a lot of BFC supporters having watched the same inept displays from the same inept players, and thus are now suggesting we may as well throw the youngsters into the team because let's face it pal, they can't be any worse, can they? And, it is only with a run of games that you will be then able to judge said youngsters. Had we played Stones/Butterfield once, then dropped them mysteriously, then gave them a brief sub appearance, and so and so on for two years, they too would still be sat scratching their arses on our bench, rather than Middlesbrough/Everton's. Noble-Lazarus is now 20 years old. If he gets regularly selected and does indeed fail to at least match the standards set by the likes of Kennedy, Perkins and Wiseman et al, then fair enough. We'll know he's nowt special. But we'll also know he's 20 years old and as good as the dross I've just named. Anyone who even dares to suggest Reuben isn't good enough etc, based on about 5 starts and countless brief sub appearances (where he's scored goals, created goals, looked pretty decent in the main) wants both their head and their eyes testing. I've seen Kennedy start about 50 games for us. Wiseman, over a hundred. Perkins, well over a hundred. I can indeed judge them as Championship players. When/if Reuben, Digby, Rose etc are afforded that same luxury of extended games despite horror show performance after horror show performance, I'll allow you to bring up this quite ridiculous argument again, mate. Ok?
Two of them have made less than ten starts between them, yet have scored four goals against championship opponents. The other is in the England squad for his age group. In fact, he's in the XI, and scored in his last appearance for them. So he's basically, in the opinion of the England coaching staff, one of the eleven best English players under the age of 19. If those three AREN'T good enough to play at this level then we must have some seriously good players in the first team.
I think people are suggesting they'd like to see them included when available. Come on mate, tha not thick.