See the Wiseman bashing has made an unwanted return.

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  1. Gol

    Goldthorpe-Red Well-Known Member

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    Get off the lads back, he's been one of only probably 4 players who've put a decent shift in this season. He's a comfortable championship player nowadays. What does this lad have to do to win the numpties over? 40 yard volley into the top corner? Jesus! Complete muppets.
     
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    Just to give further confirmation - who are the other three?
     
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    Eh? This must be a wind up. The lad is well out of his depth defensively. I'd prefer us to play him RW and bring in another RB.


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    For me, Cranie, Butland and O'Grady.
     
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    Goldthorpe-Red Well-Known Member

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    Not at all, he's just an easy target to slate for the fans who don't actually understand all that much about football.
     
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    I wouldn't have a go at Wisenan he's been one of our better players this season I just think he works better at centre half in a 3 rather than full back where his lack of positional sense gets him in bother.
     
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    He's dropped the odd bollack recently, but generally his form all year has been very good. Unfortunately, his poor form under Keith Hill will always make him a target for the boo-boys. He's a confidence player, probably unsettled by the end of the Rochdale Experiment.

    But I wouldn't call any of our players 'comfortable' in the championship, not when we annually dodge relegation by such fine margins.
     
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    I think Wisemans performances can vary, I'm not saying he's a world beater but he is steady and does the job reasonably well. I do think however when McCourt has played down the right with him he has found it a lot harder because Paddy never gets back and helps which leaves wiseman chasing two players. Unfortunately our supporters don't see this, they just choose to blame Wiseman regardless of what happens.
     
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    Wow. I thought you were going to say Kennedy, Perkins and Fox.
     
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    How many goals does he cost us? As many as any one else if not more. He offers next to nowt going forward and rarely makes a tackle .
     
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    You patronising tw@t.
     
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    Probably, but true.
     
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    Agree Darfield Red.
     
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    Personally I think he has had a decent season but the last few matches have seen him turn in some poor performances. Based on the last few games the criticism has been warranted. I do think he struggles as a full back in a 4 though, he does better as a CB in a 3 or as a wingback/winger.
     
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    He improved a lot but over the last couple of months & in particular the last two home games he's been dreadful. I can't believe someone with his pace can get caught the wrong side of the opposing winger so many times.


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    the problem with wisey is, when he has a bad game he has an absolute shocker. his performance against derby was about as a bad a full back performance as you'll see. but he wasn't alone, so it's pretty unfair to single him out. TK was every bit as bad, and Paddy McCourt may as well have been sat next to me.
     
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    Agree, last few games he does seem to have had poor performances and hasn`t been pushing on forward as much.
     
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    Ooh, that will get you listened to!! :D
     
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    Is this a wind up?

    The amount of times that he gets caught out of position is absolutely astounding. He has to rely on his pace to continually get him out of the mire, and a lot of the times, it doesn't happen.

    He's not Championship material, neither is Kennedy, neither is Dawson and neither is O'Brien.
     
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    Wiseman has let himself ( and the team) down this last few games. It's his positional sense that has been poor, normally resulting in goals.

    But let me put up a potential defence of this. He is always playing with a different player/midfield unit in front of him. Cleary on Sunday, Etuhu had absolutely no idea and hence Wiseman was all over the place trying to cover.

    BFC have not had a settled team structure or plays all season and this cannot help the full backs.

    The same argument goes for TK, with the big exception being he is totally out of his depth and would still underperform with Ronaldo in front of him.
     
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