The emperor's new clothes..

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  1. tingleytyke

    tingleytyke Well-Known Member

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    I dont get this about blaming Micky Mellon and the players for Wilson's failure to instantly turn things around??

    Is Danny not the manager and ultimately responsible for the team?
    Is Danny Making all his decisions on the advice of Mellon?
    Is Danny not his own man?
    Can Danny only manage his own players?
    Is Danny man enough to face the supporters when things go wrong?

    He will have been appointed on the understanding that he has to work within the existing set up.

    Is he capable of doing this?

    I am having doubts about his appointment.
    I also have doubts about the method of getting the supporters feelings about running the club.
    ie Getting round the pubs and clubs listening to the beer talk.

    Just my observations boys and girls. :smile:
     
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    He's been in the job less than a month. Some strange decisions have been made, but the $hit we're in is nothing to do with Danny Wilson


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  3. Jay

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    Ahh, we wanted things changing instantly.

    Yes he's the manager, yes he's responsible for the team.

    I wouldn't have thought so. He'll be taking some advice, but ultimately he'll make his own decisions.

    He's is own man, yes.

    No, he took us took 6th place in his very first season in charge without signing a single player.

    Yes, he's meeting the supporters this week.

    I think so, yes, but we'll have to wait and see.

    5 games he got then. Is that a new record?
     
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    This is a very valid point.
     
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    BFC Dave Well-Known Member

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    Likety like ! and Tingly gets the prize for bet wind up ever ! ;)
     
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    tingleytyke Well-Known Member

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    No Mellon holds that record with 3.
     
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    Perhaps, you should read http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23724517, then http://www.wbs.ac.uk/downloads/news/2009/10/what-is-the-impact-of-changing-football-manag.pdf, then another two links that I read last week but can't find now.

    Apparently changing managers does not necessarily have a positive effect on the performance of teams - even in cases where the new manager got the credit for saving his side (e.g. last season Southampton got the same number of points in the last 10 games under Adkins as the first 10 under the new manager) and team performance is, in general, related to the salaries paid out by the club. Basically, the higher the salary bill the better the players and the more likely to finish higher up the league table.

    As our wage bill is one of the lowest in the division, we either need to find the magic combination of cheap players or face the reality of finishing around the relegation spots irrespective of who is managing.

    Before anyone jumps on me, I'm not saying that we should not have sacked Flitcroft, but I doubt Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola and Alex Fergusson could do much better with the players at their disposal...
     
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    Like.

    It's a very good point.
     
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    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    I would like to think MM is here because Danny wanted him not because he was forced on him.
     
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    I only include Mellon Jay is because the job was apparently his to lose. I went to the Burnley game and thought we had improved enough for him to get a longer shot.
     
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    tingleytyke Well-Known Member

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    Well Dave when a thread about "King Keith" is dominating our forum drastic action has to be taken.. :)
     
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    Is shooting too drastic?
     
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    It's too drastic for our midfielders
     
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    tingleytyke Well-Known Member

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    Make sure Dawson takes one in the right leg, if you clip the left he will still be able to play. :)
     
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    I think the hit list should be something like this:

    1: Keith Hill
    2: David Flitcroft
    3: Anybody that refers to Hill as King Keef
    4: Our midfield
    5: Our full backs
    6: Strikers from Norway
    7: Simon Davey

    I'm sure I've probably missed some but this will do for starters.
     
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    8. Nick Colgan?
     

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