Prediction: Mellon to Kidderminster

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  1. Artie Fufkin

    Artie Fufkin Active Member

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    Kiddy sacked Steve Burr yesterday. Their chairman is saying that promotion is a must. I reckon they'll approach Mellon and, if offered the job,i think he'd jump at it this time. Danny can then go and rescue Redders from Elland Road!
     
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    I hope he does!

    Can anyone give him a lift? I would but I'd hate the awkward small talk with him about how good Dave was and how mint Pedersen's dog is!
     
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    Not a bad shout, really. Don't know weather he would go back to conference football though, as well as a wage cut.

    Would be good for him to go to League 2.

    Hill, Flitcroft and Mellon in the same league would be funny.
     
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    Good luck to him if he does leave. I don't see what Mellon has done to deserve any criticism. Seems a good bloke and did an ok job in his short time as manager. I reckon he was fundamental in our survival last year too.
     
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    To be fair, he only tends to get criticism from the same old few on here that have a pop at everybody. The ones who turns their disappointment at losing into rants against anybody they can think of, right up to the man who has paid millions of his own money to ensure we still have a club today. Everybody loved having Mellon at the club last year and credited him with a lot of the success we had on the pitch. I am sure he will have a good career in football management/coaching, wherever he ends up.
     
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    If he gets credit for our survival he deserves criticism for our current position.
     
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    Right....When do we start slagging Danny?
     
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    When he's playing his players and he's had two years working with 'em like Flitcroft.
     
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    Agree, he does. I'd give him some credit for last season's survival and he's not entirely blameless for this season's disappointments. Flicker rightly gets most of the credit and most of the blame (from me at least) but I don't think Ponty72 calling his contribution last season 'fundamental' was inaccurate.

    A spark plug lead is fundamental in the running of a car. It's not the most important component, by any stretch of the imagination, but your car wouldn't work without it. (Unless you've got a diesel, but I think we're a 1970s Morris Marina. In beige) I'm not sure we would have stayed up last year without Mellon. That's not to say Mellon chose the tactics or picked the team or any of that other nonsense that has been suggested, he didn't, Flicker did, just like he did this season, but at the very least, we know Flicker spoke to Mellon and got very close to him. Even if Mellon made no suggestions at all, which I find hard to believe, he provided a sounding board for Flicker to work out his ideas, offered support in a very stressful time and gave our manager someone to lean on. I think that was invaluable.

    Is Mellon fundamental in our downfall this year? I'm not sure he is. He's not blameless, but I think we would have been in this position with or without him.
     
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    Agree with this
     
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    Spot on
     
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    I think its purely the continuation of the under performing players still getting shirts. If there had been a clean sweep there would have been nobody to point the finger at but Danny, but in this situ it is seen that Micky has been touting the likes of Kennedy etc as the best players instead of Danny going down another route.
     
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    I don't how anyone can praise or criticise him. Unless you're in touch with someone inside the club who knows how much of an input Mellon has on incoming players, team selection, tactics etc, then how can you possibly judge him?

    If Mellon has had a key role in the above then yes he deserves his fair share of the criticism but for all we know he could just of followed Flitcroft's instructions for the past year.

    One thing I'll say is he handled himself well whilst he was caretaker manager & got the team playing good stuff at Brighton & for one half against Burnley. We weren't so good against Yeovil but I think Mellon just through the kitchen sink at it hoping a win would land him the full time job.


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    Whilst I agree, I suppose what confuses me is if he was fundamental to our success how is he not fundamental to the problems this year?

    Are we saying Flitcroft stopped listening to him? Or maybe he offered different advice this to last season?
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Totally agree...But this thread is slagging, Mellon.
     
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    From listening to people talk about Danny he doesn't strike me as someone that will accept someone elses opinion if he thinks he's wrong.
     
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    I do believe that the relationship with him and flicker wasn't as strong is the end of last season, whether this was down to an attitude change from flicker, or a realisation from Mellon that things weren't working from last season, but his advice was falling on deaf ears

    But I think the main issue is that the players don't have enough quality, or there aren't enough quality players in the team to play a full championship season and not just a dog fight for the last dozen games.
     
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    I thought we got a taste of what Danny Wilson was about in the very first match. Completely different system, Nyatanga and Hassell brought in from nowhere. It didn't seem to me that Mellon was directing him towards the old favourites. According to reports Nyatanga could hardly walk after that Leeds game and wasn't fit enough to start the next two games. Apparently he was fit for the game on Saturday, but to be honest, I'm not surprised that Wilson didn't risk him against League 2 opposition if he thought he might be out of action for the next league game. Better to give him another week to recover. Bobby Hassell, meanwhile, played 2 games in a week, was rested for the third, brought back for the Birmingham game, but suffered an injury before the match.

    Meanwhile, the player who the majority of people thought was to blame for the defeats against Bolton and Derby, Scott Wiseman, was subsequently dropped for the following two games. Hill and Flitcroft would have never dropped Wiseman.

    I don't think Mellon is telling Wilson, "you've got to play him, him and him, they're reight laikers", I just think a good deal of our players simply aren't up to it and the manager has very little choice.

    Who have we got that should always get a game? Who is that good? For me, it's Luke Steele, who Danny has picked; and Martin Cranie, who Danny has picked; and Jacob Mellis, if he's played centrally, who Danny has picked in his proper position, unlike the last two managers who played him on the wing; and Chris O'Grady, who Danny has picked, and Bobby Hassell, who Danny has picked when available. I'm also a big fan of McCourt, but I must admit in the game Danny selected him he didn't do enough to warrant being in the team every week. Cywka and Job have also got something to offer on their day, but apart from that, whoever Danny selects, they're not very good.

    Danny Wilson is his own man. He'll select the team he thinks is right. Micky Mellon will offer advice but Danny will only listen to it if he agrees with it. Our problem is our squad of players, not the assistant manager.
     

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