Wilson close with one, more to come.

I know Cryne's not the angel he's painted to be by some supporters. But purely and simply, he saved the club when it was on it's knees and however honourable the previous owner's intentions were - he had left it in a right mess.

A couple of years ago we were told in no uncertain terms, that Patrick could not and would continue to bale the club out season after season and it had to grow up and stand on it's own two feet. Don Rowing was the hatchet man, whose job it was to balance the books and keep everything on an even keel. The Rochdale Experiment didn't really work. Yes they kept us up just about, but here we are again, midpoint in the season and bottom of the league. It would appear with our gates and limited marketability, you DO have to keep throwing money at the club to keep it afloat in this league. Why? Because everyone else is doing the same. Financially, we are a league one club. Last year some folk talked of survival as a kind of promotion, which is exactly what Danny has on his hands.

 

You're a barnsley supporter tho mate and I'm sure you would bring someone in with business knowledge on top of that I would be your new best mate hehe!

 

Re: Patrick Cryne can't win

Peter Doyle didn't have the best interests of the club at heart ?? His plan was the only one on the table... Where was Pat , AFC Barnsley ? hardly in the best interests of BFC was it

 

Re: Patrick Cryne can't win

No it wasn't the only one on the table. Patrick Cryne confirmed at a supporters meeting held at Ardsley House in October 2003 that he had put in an offer for the club the previous year. The Administrator decided to accept Peter Doyle's offer instead and informed him as such whilst Patrick was over in the USA. Had that been the best offer, one wonders why it took over a year to exit administration and was only achieved after Patrick Cryne had taken over.

 

Re: Patrick Cryne can't win

Cheers Kev, pretty much how I was going to answer him. Also before Dennis left PC wanted to put some money into the club to get us out of the s**t but JD refused. It was assumed that he refused because he thought PC wanted to run the club and push JD out, which was not the case. PC didn't want the club he supported in trouble, and was merely wanting to help out as he had no idea about running a football club. Would have saved a load of heartache, and JD might still have been chairman today.

 

Re: I beg to differ

I never said that though did I. I just asked if it was legitimate or not to be able to criticise an owner who saved your club?

 

Re: I beg to differ

Oh yes you did. I only wish I'd replied by quoting your initial comments, before you had the opportunity to change them. Which is why I answered as I did.

 

Re: I beg to differ

I edited my initial response BEFORE you posted this accusation. Both my initial post and after I edited it contained the following line:-

I would say there's a common thread running between the two situations.

Now, if you think that me saying they are the same thing then fine, but please don't try and make out I changed the overall meaning of my post, like Im somehow changed my mind, because I did no such thing.

 

Re: Patrick Cryne can't win

Ernest Dennis.

 

Re: I beg to differ

You altered your comments as I was putting together my reply to your initial post. By the time I'd finished & posted, you'd altered your comments.
Sadly, as I didn't use the quoting method of reply I can't offer definitive proof of my claim. So that's that.
If I have misinterpreted your comments and views, then I apologise unreservedly. I'm sorry. The fault then lies with me and I'll do my utmost to ensure it's not repeated.

 

Re: I beg to differ

This could escalate, take it steady you two.

Hair pulling next.

 

Re: Patrick Cryne can't win

Ah yes, JD's father.

We are lucky to have had two fans willing to spend their money to save us.

What both infuriates and humours me is the idiot fans who say they aren't renewing their season ticket due to the current plight but expect Cryne to spend more millions!

 

agree with all of that but I'd substitute the word possibly for probably.

 

Re: Patrick Cryne can't win

What was Pc's offer did he say? Was it better for the creditors than PD's solution if it was why didn't he make it public at the time......did anyone ask at the meeting?

 

Re: Patrick Cryne can't win

It was refused because it had to be payed back in 12 months or Cryne would control the club. There was no chance it could be paid back in that time. Two sides to every story

 

Re: I beg to differ

They're actually both properly nice lads.!!

 

Re: I beg to differ

They sound like tossers to me, especially that Lil ponce.

 

Re: Patrick Cryne can't win

According to Patrick Cryne at the meeting, mate, the details of all the offers had to be kept secret from other interested parties as per the stipulations of the Administrator. I don't know whether that was also a legal aspect to it. He decided he wouldn't go public with his offer and, once Mr Doyle's offer had been accepted, that was that.
After being in administration for a year, the fans at the meeting were just happy that the club could now exit administration and move forward, especially with a fan at the helm. The mood was so positive and upbeat for the first time since relegation eighteen months earlier.
Even if someone didn't like or agree with the way either Patrick Cryne or John Dennis ran the club, it can't be denied that both have been lifelong fans.

 

Re: I beg to differ

I agree about that Big Lil tart.

 

Re: I beg to differ

Place is full of em.