Re: Patrick Cryne can't win Not fair to say that JD refused, as it was a board decision to decline PC's offer for the club. What PC wanted to do was use the money to firstly pay off the debts the club had a secondly to invest in the future of the club, both on and off the pitch. The board took the decision to turn him down, seemingly purely for the reason that PC's plans included no recompense to the shareholders for their shares. This decision was taken without informing the shareholders. I have no doubts that the majority of shareholders would have accepted PCs plans, in order to avoid administration, as most shareholders were not in it for the money. The board, however, was comprised of people holding a large amount of shares, so it would appear that their personal greed got in the way, which was daft as they ended up with nothing anyway. As we know, the administrators then chose to accept an alternative offer to PCs and we had a period of uncertainty whereby the debt appeared to quadruple, but the less said about that the better. PC eventually got hold of the club, but purely to rescue it from liquidation. The deal over the ground with the council safeguards us against anyone trying to asset strip in the future. PC then funded the club to around £4m per year for a few years, but this could not go on forever. As PC's family have no interest in taking over the club in the future, PC has done the right thing in moving to make the club self-sufficient. After all, he could now have been residing elsewhere had events in the courtroom taken a different path. PC never had any ambition to be the public face of the club. If he had he would have installed himself as chairman, which he has never done. He has always appointed people from within the game to do the day to day running of the club. However, as he signs the cheques there are decisions that he has to take, or at least have some involvement in, including the hiring and firing of managers. The club has always been up for sale or investment, should the right people come along. We should be happy that with PC at the head we'd be unlikely to see the club placed in the hands of anyone like the bloke at Cardiff or those at Coventry. But don't think they're not trying to find investment, there's just not that many people out there who want to throw their money away, which is basically what investment into a club at our level entails. Lets face it, most ideas that people come up with on here are at an initial financial cost to the club, ie giving tickets away, reducing ticket prices, providing free travel, overstocking the club shop, etc, without any guarantee that the costs would be recouped. When we're down on our luck with results mud tends to get slung in all directions, as people tend to become very emotional and extreme, but to start throwing mud at the man who basically has spent millions purely to save the club from extinction, with very little chance of seeing that money again, is crackers. Why should he come out with public statements. He never has before, even when we were doing well. He's reluctently spoken to the papers and at fans forums, but that's really not his thing, particularly when he's often misquoted (he has never uttered the words 'box office signings' for example!) when he has spoken to the papers! We should really be looking at the people who are making money by being at the club, rather than those who are spending money by being at the club, if we want answers. Start with the players and work your way upwards, because only in the crazy world of football is it that people get paid less the further you go up the food chain! We have a lot of players getting paid what we could only dream of and who are performing badly, week in, week out. That is why we are at the bottom of the league. They're happy to sign the contracts (protected contracts too, as unlike us they cannot get sacked for delivering substandard work) so lets see them work a bit harder to deserve them. If they cannot do this they should accept it and take their skills to a level at which they can deliver. Footballers get away with so much. If a player dives it's the referee that gets it in the neck for being fooled, rather than the bloke on £150k per week who cheated. If the players underperform it's the manager who gets sacked, when in most cases he's only part of the blame. When ticket prices are high its the staff in the ticket office or the general manager that gets the stick, when the tickets have to be a certain level to pay for the overpaid players' wages. We have around 25 professional players at the club, so you would hope that we could find eleven at a time to put some ruddy effort in.
I can almost hear the ponty roar...nice one squirrel nice one son nice one squirrel lets have another one
Re: I beg to differ ok, no need to apologise. Ive been to the dentist today so feeling particularly touchy!
Re: I beg to differ I was waiting for my daughter to come back from her hospital check up at the time I was posting. It's no excuse for my aggressive approach, but I hope you'll understand my OTT, out of character deliberations. We're good, mate.
Re: I beg to differ Is that your best attempt at a hissy fit? You're just not in my league, sir. I do mincing round the room, stamping my foot and angrily wave my fist at the screen just for starters. Actually, these days, after I've done all that, I'm usually knackered and have to have a lie down.
DURKAR RED, thats the most stupid thing you have ever ever posted on here AFC Barnsley was set up as a safety net in case we did go to the wall, before Patrick and his people could come in a save us from a greed. If that had happened then we would have had to have gone down the same road as the likes of AFC Wimbledon, Newport Town, Accrington Stanley. AND yes I do know some of the people involved with AFC Barnsley before you start.