To those of you who dont believe this govenment is evil read this.

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  1. ark

    ark104 (v2) Well-Known Member

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    Loved it when the NHS was a massive part of the Olympics opening ceremony
     
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    Re: I see you ignore Italy which is ranked 2 and...

    So Italy is a mixed public and private system like France.

    And I said I didn't want a system like the American one but a socialised system like our and Canada's (also down in the 30s) aren't the best systems either.
     
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    A rare occasion here but I actually agree with you. I don't fundamentally see anything wrong with the NHS but I agree that the alternative is not the US system...apart from the Conservatives seem to think it is.
    Similarly, the US right-wing media use the NHS as the alternative to what they have.
     
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    Not arguing for or against privatisation but you must catch different trains from me if you use the word pleasant to describe rail travel. Can't think you've ever caught a Virgin Cross Country. Permanent smell of sewage, cramped, no buffet car and invariably stressed staff. . Like Ryanair but without the scratch cards and more expensive. Some of Northern Rail's rolling stock seems pre-war to me-almost Fred Flintstone powered- and as for their punctuality/reliability??.... And every time I go trans Penniine there's always a scramble for seats due to lack of coaches.
    Plenty of room for improvement from where I sit..
     
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    Odd now this thread has become a discussion about the NHS when the article isn't really about health care at all. As Tarn Tyke points out it's about how people are valued in society. Here we have an organisation who appear to be about to allocate crucial resources to people based upon what IT decides their 'benefit to society' is, rather than upon the basis of need.
    If there is truth in the article then alarm bells should ring.
    Look up eugenics on Wikipedia -it's only short step away from this..
     
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    And the Tories called him a loony lefty for doing it, that should tell Gloria a lot about the Tory policies, but he won't see it or doesn't want to.
     

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