Carl Froch....

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    judith charmers Well-Known Member

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    What a joker this guy is....absolutely ***** scared of George Groves! For me he's lost all his credibility he's built up from being a good world champion over the past few years. I hope he fights someone like Adonis Stevenson who will knock his smug big nose face off his shoulders!
     
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    No one will ever knock him out, forget it. Don't think he is scared of anyone either.
     
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    Obviously this board is about opinions but I think he'll most certainly get knocked out within his next few fights.....if he's as good as he proclaims to be then why won't he answer his critics and agree a rematch with Groves?
     
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    Maybe he sees no value in a rematch with him at this stage of his career, he's got other fights he wants before he packs in. He did beat him remember, the ref stopped it, not Froch.
     
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    Albeit a little dubious would you not admit?

    Personally I think he'll pick his next fight very wisely.....i.e. someone who'll not cause him to be put to the canvas!

    Thoughts?
     
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    He beat Groves. He doesn't have to have a rematch with him.

    Anyway, he said a rematch will probably happen later in the year, after he's fought Chavez Jr in Vegas.
     
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    Not dubious at all IMO but those arguments have been done to death. Groves was on his way to a beating in the latter rounds. I wish the ref had let it go on to save the apparent controversy but he decided to stop it.

    Not a clue who he'll fight next to be honest. Groves or Chavez Jnr would be my guess. Ward or Golovkin maybe, although I think Gol is fighting soon anyway isn't he?
     
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    judith charmers Well-Known Member

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    Is that after Chavez Jr as beat him?
     
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    Agree. Froch would've knocked him out eventually.

    http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/ne...ematch-but-prefers-julio-cesar-chavez-jr-bout
     
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    Look at it from Froch's point of view, he can have a hard fight against Groves, lose another wide points decision to Ward, get stopped by Golovkin or he could do what anyone with a brain cell would do & fight Chavez Jr & make a fortune due to American ppv in a fight where he'd be a big favourite?

    It's a no brainer, fight Chavez then face Groves, the Groves fight will still be there.

    Froch has acted a pillock in recent months but he's earned the right to pick & choose opponents after the run of tough fights he's had.
     
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    Totally Agree! next stop American $$$$
     
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    Why would he fight Groves? It was clear on the build up they really didn't like each other, now Groves is moaning all over sky saying he's earned a rematch. But he did lose and why would Froch give him a big pay day, when he can hop off to America and earn a small fortune????
     
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    He won't beat Chavez JR.

    He's trying to see his name in lights again on the Vegas strip, that's all. The Groves fight proved he's on the slide so he's wanting to cash out.

    He won't fight Ward. Golovkin won't move up to super-middle. Adonis Stephenson is at Light-Heavy and Froch won't move up.

    Was just starting to warm to Froch the last couple of years after pretty much despising him, but I can see why he's avoiding the Groves rematch.
     
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    Me too, but the way he acted before and after the Groves fan has led me to believe he's a nob. I always knew he had an arrogant side, but I felt he deserved thr bravado by what he had done. The Bute fight is one of my favourite fights. But the lack of humility he showed after the Groves fight put a lot off him. I think he was right though, although it was an early stoppage, he was about to knock Groves out, but nevertheless, he didn't have to act like such a to55pot.

    He has earned his right to a big Las Vegas fight and a final payday though. It's just unfortunate that his public standing is as low as it has ever been at this moment. Groves' time will come. He still has things to work at, but he certainly knows how to raise his game when he needs to.

    On another note, seeing Froch's missus at ringside was always one of the highlights of his fights, but after hearing her speak in the build up to the Groves fight i've gone off her too!
     
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    What makes you think he'd lose to Chavez Jr.? Don't see anything in him that would cause Froch problems. His sheer size has helped him win fights at 160 but he won't have that advantage up at 168
     
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    Because he wasn't a clear winner in the original fight so he'd want to have a rematch to make sure there is no doubt? Because when he loses to someone he wants a rematch so can't really have a go at Groves for being the same?
     
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    Quite a few things make me think he'll lose to Chavez JR.

    Froch walks around at 168 and very rarely goes above 170 on fight night. Chavez JR will turn up around 185/190 on fight night, so there will be a size advantage.

    It will be a trade off kind of fight. Martinez nulified Chavez's threat for 11 rounds through speed and skills, of which Froch doesn't have. I think in a trade of Chavez JR out lands Froch.

    Froch is on the slide in my opinion. The Groves fight will have only worked to speed that up, and as much as he's got an iron chin he is there to be knocked out and was in serious trouble at least twice in the Groves fight. Chavez JR hits harder.

    On his travels Froch is 1-2 (losing to Ward and Kessler, beating Taylor). He was far from convincing in the Taylor fight, and against a fresher, better fighter would have lost that night (see Martinez surviving against Chavez for an example).
     
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    I remember going mental when he pretty much assaulted Bute. It was incredible!

    Completely agree about his behaviour pre and post Groves though. He'd have taken close to 10,000 to Vegas if he'd have shown some respect after the fight, but he'll probably only take 2,500 now.

    I don't completely buy in to the view that he would have knocked Groves out though. I just don't think you can say. Groves could have taken a knee, cleared his head, survived the round, and then continued picking off Froch until the end of the fight. He was in worse trouble against Anderson and went on to win (and yes, I know Froch is far superior to Anderson).
     
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    Fair enough I can see your reasoning I just don't think Chavez is quite good enough to be the man to beat Froch.

    I completely agree about Froch been on the slide though & feel he'll be stopped before long.
     
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