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I can't agree with you. He's fallen, there's contact, he's appealed. No foul, no penalty, no dive, no booking, play on fella.

 

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Bingo!

 

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If he hadn't have appealed for the penalty, he wouldn't have got sent off. As soon as he went in to the challenge, the referee had in his mind to send him off. I know that's what I thought straight away.

He felt he'd suffered an injustice & went to gain some retribution. Happens all the time, and quite a lot of the time results in a red. Honestly think if he hadn't just appealed for the penalty it would have been a yellow.

On another note, the simulation all round in todays game was pathetic from both teams, but perhaps that's a suggestion that the players know how weak the referee can be.

 

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glad I've seen this I thought it was a pen at the time slightly easier to take now

 

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But he timed the tackle perfectly and won the ball with one foot. I can't see how it's even a foul. Yes, he was angry, but you can't send someone off for being angry. Well, you can, the ref did it today, but it's not in the laws of the game.

 

Frimpong was unlucky. 1st booking was a dive and he got ball in 2nd.

It's a pen on Mellis and no idea what Jimbo was doing at the end.

Hunt going off made a difference. Jim was poor when he came on.

 

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I think in the referee's defence it's worth noting that he was on the blind side of the foul/tackle and from his angle it looked 2 footed. It's the linesman who gave it i n the first place when he was on the right side to see that it wasnt a foul that got it wrong

 

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IMO Mellis went down far too easily and for me no penalty.

As for the sendings off both players should be fined. Pingpong on a booking should never have gone in the way he did and Mellis gave the ref no option with both feet off the ground.

 

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The Mellis red card is never a red card in a million years.

 

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Not sure I agree with that. If the Wednesday player hadn't rolled round clutching his ankle as if it had been shot, when in actual fact it hadn't even been kicked (now THAT was simulating!) and if the Wednesday players hadn't reacted like they did he may have got away with a yellow. I'd say that for challenges like this it is almost always the reaction of the opposition and, in some cases, the reaction of the crowd, that brings the red card. Some red cards for serious foul play are pretty obvious, like Johnson's on Shea where it couldn't be missed that Johnson's studs nearly removed Shea's kneecap, but far many more are given after the referee has been influenced by the players or the crowd.

Mellis went flying in and my first reaction when he did it was that a red card was on its way, but had the Wednesday player stayed on his feet, or at least got straight back up to his feet, and the Wednesday players not surrounded the referee, and I saw one waving the imaginary red card, Mellis would probably not have been sent off. Even so, I doubt if it would get overturned, because it is rare that the FA will overrule a referee.

Just makes me sad watching players rolling around and cheating so much these days. The pillocks on Match of the Day talking about a player's right to go down don't help. I've just watched a fight on Sky (and look away now if you don't want to know the result!) where Gavin Rees and Gary Buckland knocked 7 ounces of **** out of each other for 12 rounds solid without once letting up, yet neither bloke left his feet. Amazing fight between two warriors. And then you see players rolling round when even they must know that we are about to watch replays showing they weren't actually touched. It really is about time we started seeing bans for that kind of thing and it would be nice to see one of the TV companies naming and shaming them and sticking the clip on the internet (like that would ever happen!) for us all to laugh at them. Seriously, if the FA started banning players for diving and cheating, Suarez, Bale, Ronaldo, etc would soon have had it knocked out of them by their managers.

 

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I keep seeing this argument about challenges - only one of Mellis's feet is in the challenge. The other one is just sliding through behind him. There's a big difference between what Mellis did and a 2-footed challenge.

 

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as ive said before in another thread, i think there was enough contact but Mellis went down far too easily (if there is such a thing).
I do think it would have been given at the other end though, the ref seemed too willing to give them all the 50/50 decisions.

But i think he was reckless and was always risking the red card with that particular referee to be honest.

 

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Just watched it again mate and I'm sorry I still see it as a red. Both feet left the ground in a lunge to get the ball which I'm not sure he did. Looks to me as if he may have caught the Sheffield defender first. Hard to say and that is with countless replays. And as we know linesman and ref only get the one take. You'll agree it does look a wee bit reckless so for me no complaints.

All opinions I'm afraid mate and he refs opinion is the one that counts. Always the same in football. When you are down everything seems to go against you.

 

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I think it was a combination of the two. The reaction of the players, being the lad fouled & the players surrounding the referee, and what had happened less than a minute previously made it seem a lot worse than it was.

Not sure if you've watched Match Of The Day tonight, but what Chico Flores does when Andy Carroll gets sent off is an absolute disgrace, and surely Carroll's red will get overturned. I'd be all for the FA transferring the 3 game ban to Flores for his simulation, but it won't ever happen.

 

Of that was a sending off for Mellis there should have been another 4 for them in the game. Got away with way too much.

 

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I am with you on this. I think the ref got the key decisions right. All the sendings off and the non-penalty were right IMO. Sickening though to watch this for the first time.

 

I didn't think it was a penalty at the time but after hearing Danny's interview on the way back I thought I'd got it wrong but to be honest having seen it for myself again I think the ref got it right

 

Can't argue with any of the red cards and the penalty would have been very soft to say the least.

 

I used to have a bit of respect for Chris Kirkland but one thing that struck me watching that back was how quickly he sprinted out of his goal to make the case for Mellis to get sent off. Pr*ck.

Also, amidst all the hype about Jim and that pass, there is no way in the world that a 20 yard shot along the ground that's barely travelling should beat Steele. IMHO

 

Having seen that not a penalty. Mellis' tackle weren't that bad but you cannot go jumping in the way he did. Intent was there and if DW appeals that it won't get rescinded.


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