West Ham re Andy Carroll - give it a rest!

West Ham are looking to go down a legal route to get Carroll's ban overturned, after the FA upheld Howard Webb's decision to give Carroll the red card for elbowing that soft Swansea player. In slow motion it looked like nothing and the Swansea player certainly rolled round like he'd been shot, so my first reaction was that the red card was harsh. In fact, it was quite harsh anyway, but nevertheless, when you watch it from the other side at full speed Carroll clearly swings his arm out with the intention of clouting the sift Swansea player. As he does connect with his head Webb had little choice but to send him off, so there was never any hope that the FA were going to overturn it.

Is this going to be the next step in 'big clubs are bigger than the game, the Inland Revenue, et al'? Are we going to see clubs turning to their lawyers every time something goes against them? I ruddy hope not. I can just see it now. 'FA sued by Arsenal, because they claim they clearly should have had a throw-in in the build up to City's equaliser'.

West Ham need to accept the ban, tell Carroll to watch how he throws his arms around, even under the provocation of someone climbing all over his back, and get on with it. And Garry Monk's first job as Swansea manager should be to tell that soft lad to stop being such a big Jessie!

 

I'm with you. Carroll's face is the giveaway. The aggressive tension is blatant before he swings for him. If he'd have connected, you're looking at a lengthy old ban and a serious injury for the former X-Factor contestant.

 

Very much against West Ham going down the route they are. They appealed, it failed, tough ****, get on with the next game. Life isn't fair, never has been and never will be.

However, I really don't think it was a red cad.

I'm like a broken record with that this week.

 

I agree to an extent so I think they will probably drop it however I wish they would take legal action against the Swansea player. Shame doesn't seem to be a factor with players these days.

 

FA want to tell WHU to behave themselves. Going to court over what the ref dealt with is just embarrassing.

Game is finished as we know it if this is allowed to happen.

 

Have to say it was never, ever, ever a red card. What has he done?

If that's a red card then every game is abandoned due to lack of players, and Llere last week did enough for 30 straight reds.

It's the Swansea player who needs banning and for a long time, it went up with elbows for a start and needs a big ban.

Just like Maguire last week for Frimpongs tackle when I couldn't see contact. He shouldn't have been on the pitch with his yellow, should have gone for persistent diving.

 

I agree with you this time, though, on everything!

 

You can hardly blame them

They got shafted Big style when badlosers united took them to court, they learnt a lesson that day no matter how wrong you are keep appealing

 

Not a red card but they have exhausted the appeals process and the ban had been upheld. So tough ***** that's life.

West Ham need to tell Caroll that if he carries on flinging his arms around he will get sent off too often. Swansea need to tell their lad not to be such a big girls blouse and then then they both need to move on

If I were the FA I'd just say play by the agreed structures or quit the league it's up to you.

 

We get shi.t decisions against us every week. Look as last week against Wednesday. The referee was terrible all match. Did the club cry about it and involve lawyers?

No because that's football.

They've apealed and 3 FA members turned it down. It should end there.

Stop crying about it and get on with it. If this goes any further then it will make West Ham look pathetic.

 

The intent was there. Carroll had no idea Chico had ducked under his flailing arm. If he'd been stood upright it would have smacked him in the teeth but as it was he ducked under and it caught his pony tail. Not excusing the jessie but the rules say you can be sent off for the intent. A bit like if you went at someone with a flying drop-kick but missed, still a red card. Proving the intent is another matter but to me its clear on Carroll's face that he was wildly swinging his arm with no care for who might be on the end of it.He needs to stop flinging his arms round and then he'd have nothing to worry about

 

No intent, how do you go up for the ball in the air without any aggression.

He did nothing at all wrong, sorry but if you think that's a deserved red card tomorrow will be abandoned after 4 mins due to lack of players.

 

Exactly that. The rules are meant to be interpreted in the opinion of the referee. They've had an appeal and lost. I don't think it was a red card but I do accept that there are elements of it that could be seen as red card offences to some. It was one of those. Certainly not the incident to be taking any further. West Ham would come out with no credit, already looking a bit silly. A court of law is totally inappropriate.