Family club my ****ing arse

Gally - I agree with sadbrewer

I saw from the East Stand stewards getting chucked about! Not by the 'young aggressors'!

I'd have done the same. Bully boy tactics all aimed at a group of young lads who want to create a much missed atmosphere!

Granted some do step out of line as in every area of society! But if not sitting in their own seat is the bit that tips it over then that's *****!

Videos of flares, racist ***** etc etc then fair do's!

 

I do sit in my seat, and there's a spare seat next to my mate where another mate sits whwn theres not a large crowd. His ticket is three rows infront.

If we sat across the stairs we'd have been checked, and my mate would've been banned until the end of season for not wanting to sit alone while not causing anyone a problem at all.

 

So. Obviously, people sitting in their own seats will solve the problem of smoke bombs then?

I don't condone fans abusing and goading stewards. But if there isn't a problem safety wise, they don't need to go up there and cause one, do they?

 

it will help them identify the people doing it without having to ***** all our ticket money up the wall trying to work out who people are and appealing for help it will be the ****** in seat R46 for example

and standing at the top of a gangway jumping up and down IS a safety issue as seen by the stewards going arse over tit down the stairs when they were purposefully pushed

 

You don't sit in R46 do you?

 

haha no but as I typed it I was hoping that nobody on here did

 

That is basically what happened today...when everythings Ok just leave it alone..obviously Doyles have been given the job by BFC,whoever at BFC has sanctioned it has made a mistake...hundreds in the ground will have been sitting in a free seat,probably most of the away end..to pick on a few kids who are not really a problem is purely counterproductive,I moved away from the Family stand years ago because of the t***s in there,I have had no reason to move away from these lads in the corner,I am not a bloke who likes to witness bad behaviour and to be honest these lads are young and daft,but not malevolent thugs in any way shape or form....had they been, I have a strong suspicion the stewards would not have gone in there.

 

Barnsley have some horrible scum following them. At Wembley I was abused by a group of barnsley fans who thought I was a Cardiff fan. I was on my own. 6 or 7 of them. They do sit in the ponty as I've seen them. Couldn't care less as you get scum everywhere but shows how thick and retarded some people in barnsley are. Worst bit? My sister taught these dregs of society. Poor lass. Their parents or more to the point parent are to blame. Little shits.

 

I understand that the lads in the corner have over stepped the mark on many occasions this season. And needed to be dealt with, but I believe the club have just victimised and stereotyped everyone in block 1 and how can that be right?

Before kick off a steward asked to see a man and his very young child's ticket, he was say two rows infront of his actual seat. The steward instructed him to move and he did, 2 minutes later he was still talking to the man he was previously sat next to with his son in his arms. The same steward seemingly couldn't wait to lay his hands on the man and make him sit 2 rows back.

This was going on for all the game genes the protest and the stewards been pushed about by everyday fans.

If the stewards used common sense no problem would've been caused.

The club also has to realise that blocks 1 & 2 have probably the most amount of away travellers in.

I'm not certain but I think one of the lads who went to Dundalk was kicked out today.

Which gives an idea of the type of fans the club will drive away if this continues.

 

I sit just to the right of where the offending ??? young lads stand / sit and yes they can be annoying sometimes and the smoke bomb was a step too far but the tactics employed by the stewards is tantamount to bullying and its the pleasure that one or two have been taking has been the problem, especially the one who was eventually pushed further down the ponty, he spent most of the first half throwing his weight around with the younger end but I saw an old bloke approach him with a request that other fans were causing a nuisance further a cross and he completely ignored him, instead concentrated on his little kingdom he'd built himself. he eventually went just after half time and immediately was replaced by 2 others who then straight out the blue came up to me and the blokes either side of me and said " right 2 of your are in the wrong seats and are going" this despite, first we were all in our correct seats (all ST holders) and secondly know body had checked our tickets previously or even spoken to any of the 3 of us, these 2 new stewards were as pissed off as us as it turned out, because they thought they'd been set up by the first 2, did eventually get talking to them and they agreed the first 2 were causing them more trouble that the fans were with their over zealous stewarding.

 

I use to sit at the back a long time ago, talking 10 years now, I use to be there with about 50 young ones if not more, 1 day stewards told us to atop banging on back, so we did except a small majority next game everyone who was in that corner had to produce their ticket, now today's issue in my eyes is escalating from last week and why did last week happen? Because they were checking tickets, why were they checking tickets? Because of the people banging on the back.

If they ask em to stop the game will have no atmosphere if they stop you lot will say no atmosphere at oakwell **** sake **** fans.

Today it seemed one lad who is known was having a bit of banter with the stewards and the stewards didn't like it so the rest of the fans stuck up for him which they do right

 

Furthermore the stewards asked one bloke to go back to his seat who then ran past them and into the gangway before jumping up and down and shouting again, this bloke then pushed stewards and legged it into the stand where he was promptly supported by other drains on society who also started jumping up and down before assaulting stewards by pushing them down the stairs.

I think you'll find some of these "drains on society" have been watching Barnsley home and away for years and are some of the best supporters the club has got. These lads were trying to get one of the regular stewards to go up and stop what they regarded as bully boy tactics. I also noted that said bully boy soon changed tack when confronted by these fans

 

And furthermore, me and a couple with a young lad moved back about 5 rows when it started to rain. Are we now banned from Oakwell???

 

What I witnessed from 10 yards away today was an extremely poor, counter-productive performance from Doyle Security..if that was what BFC expected them to do,then someone at the Club has made a mistake,singing the 'we'll sit where we want' song is a sign of passive resistance from a large group of decent people,few of whom fit in to the football hooligan mould,I'm sure CCTV will have been used and nothing I saw could be used as a reasonable excuse for frog marching young supporters out of the ground,Doyle started it, to my knowledge, at the last home game,I didn't think it looked right then..but I was prepared to give the stewards the benefit of the doubt,on seeing them coming in at this game I took particular notice,as it seems did a lot of other people,obviously hundreds of us came to the same conclusion.
I appreciate stewarding is a difficult job, having to strike a balance between crowd control safety and not being seen as killjoys,however the stewards got it badly wrong again today,the only difference it seems to me is that more decent people witnessed it this week,and were prepared to stand up and voice their outrage.

 

If you saw what happened ( which i did cos i sit very close to the section the stewards were harrassing ) a couple of minutes before he got pushed, you would understand the anger that particular steward was causing around that area.He was trying to eject a young lad from the ground for standing up for him self. Thats when the fans closed ranks & prevented the ejection, which caused the steward to be pushed.

The stewards were very lucky that they didnt have a riot on there hands today all caused by one headstrong steward who didnt have an ounce of common sense.

Disclaimer : i neither indulge in or condone loutish behaviour.

 

Gally, can this be handled by the trust?

I sit near that area because I like a bit of atmosphere, and the rest of the ground is like a morgue. These lads try and create some atmosphere. The question should be asked, "Are they taking someone else's seat?" If they aren't, I fail to see the problem.

Why aren't the stewards checking tickets in the East and West Stands? If it is a question of people in wrong seats, then it should be addressed throughout the stadium, not in one particular area. I often swop with my grandson for him to get a better view. Am I to be thrown out and banned?

The use of smoke bombs is wrong, and should be stopped. However, sending the stewards with the attitude they seem to have is not the way to sort it. The idea of a "singing section" has been mentioned, and I see nothing wrong in that.

The way things are going we will turn into a Rugby Union crowd. "Kick and clap" my League mate calls them.

 

Re: Gally, can this be handled by the trust?

Not sure exactly what happened, and I guess these lads wasn't completely 100% behaving....but I've thought before some of them stewards look like they fancy themselves to much and think they are in the FBI or something. Same at Leeds this year, I saw one steward talking to the cops as if he was prime minister saying what exactly what he wanted to happen, just the way he said it made him sound like a right jumped up.....

 

Bit difficult for some to understand. Gangway 1 of the Ponty seems to be the only part of the ground where our smoke canister throwing, racism shouting, view blocking fans 'sit'. You can't blame the stewards for wanting to make sure those in that area are where they are supposed to be considering all the previous with that section of the Ponty.