Salmond Shafted

The simple fact is, Scotland and England need each other - I don't understand the scots wining wanting their independence anyway, we all know they would come back with their tails between their legs begging us to take them back after a few years when their economy is in a worse shape than both spain and greece

 

We wouldn't be worse off, im not saying we would be any better but we wouldn't be worse off. You'd be the ones kicking your legs in the world ocean trying to stay afloat, maybe you will and maybe you'd do well, but in this economic climate the odds are stacked against you

 

I won't be any better or worse off in any significant way, even if you get independence. It really makes no difference to me. It's like when QPR play Leicester, interesting to watch, but of no consequence to me what the result is.

 

Maybe so Dennis and time will tell. I do hope if we do break away we do make a real go of it.

Bit of a better response from you there mate. Better than your original outpouring of Scottish hate.

 

Im still bitter after a slap I got in Edinburgh a few years ago, hence the hate part.
I don't think independence will happen anyway and if it does I hope we get a vote on the new choice of union flag, maybe BFC could run the selection.

 

Maybe you deserved it.

 

Quite possibly

 

FAQ UM off and once they've gone don't give them a penny, only reason there doing this is because they know we'll do what we did with the paddys and bail um out if the go under,

 

Come on if you want to leave the Union, you leave, end of.

 

Mark - when / if they stop exporting electricity power to england we will be in the ****
think about it

 

I agree. And if the Scots vote for independence I might well be joining you up there.

I see no reason why they can't keep the pound. They already have the authority to issue their own bank notes so they continue to do that and link it to the UK pound.

 

Not sure thats the case though. Saw something a while back that states for the national waters you draw the line of the border out and it would give Scotland majority of the oil (which is running out) but England would get the majority of the gas fields.

 

If Scotland want their own Currency Union they have a ready made name for their new coinage...... the Europeans have the euro, we have the pound, the scots could have the C.U (jimmy)
Or the Och Aye.
"that'll be 50 och ayes laddie"
"100 c.u's to the och aye"

 

Ah well a collective show of ignorance by the panel on Question Time on the subject of Scottish Independence. I'm not really surprised as most in England think it will not affect them.
I watched an interview by Alec Salmond tonight and he was asked what will happen if Scotland is refused to use the pound. Now I must admit I don't understand the ins and outs of it all but Salmonds reply was basically,
If after Independence, it was refused, another currency would be sought. Our share of the 1.6 trillion national debt would be defaulted on and the whole amount left to England to deal with. Also Oil and gas exports to England would have to be reassessed. At the end of his interview he said that when everything was looked at by England he was absolutely convinced that our requests would be accepted.

Who is going to blink first.

 

So in other words its like a messy divorce, Scotland (the woman) trying to leave the Husband (England) with all the debts yet wanting to keep the house and family dog?

 

Yup about right mate and the woman always wins.

 

Count me in ian even though i dont get to vote i think if this is done right scotland is on to a winner. A mini cuba on our door step lol

 

For what my opinion is worth ( not a lot, granted) surely if Scotland had really wanted to benefit from the oil revenues closes to its shores it should have gone for independence 15 or 20 years ago? I could be wrong of course, but I thought the vast majority of the oil and gas revenues have been derived already i.e. reserves are vastly dwindled now. May be not such a major potential loss to the rest of GB after all?

 

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But this would mean that the first act of a newly-independent Scotland would be an act of default on it's share of existing debt obligations. Surely that leads to a 'Triple Z' credit rating, without which Scotland would have no access to government borrowing? They could argue oil and gas revenues, but I suspect that would be a long and bitter scrap, probably involving the EU and the international courts.

Anyway, if it's a close run thing, you can get 7/2 on a 'Yes' vote. Personally, I think the 1/4 for a 'No' tells it's own story!