Why I Will Vote Yes

Scottish Independence in 5 points


I have to admit, I grew up thinking that Scottish Independence would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. Then I started to realise, it’s a bit like separating conjoined twins, it’s not as simple as putting Rabbie Burns head on the £ and getting on with it. I’ve watched the debate so far, and although I was naturally leaning towards Yes! I still had to be persuaded and here is why (so far) I have been.

OIL

Both sides have been endlessly bickering about how much North Sea oil is left and how much it is worth and while I agree this is important, it’s not the be all and end all. The No campaign would have you believe that there is enough oil to last until 2015 and it’s worth twa bob. The Yes fellas have it at endless and worth a trillion per person. The one fact remains, this planet does not have 40 years worth of oil usage left in it. If we are still producing oil in 2050, this planet will have more to worry about than us like, where did Holland go? Remember we used to be able to see the sun? The future is sustainable energy, solar, tidal and wind. That’s the ace up Scotland’s sleeve and in the words of Meat Loaf ”2 out of 3 ain’t bad.”

Alex Salmond

This is a total non-debate. I’m refusing to make a decision about the long term future of our nation based on the personality of a 58 year old man. In the event of a Yes vote, he does not become President or King, his position doesn’t change. If you refuse to vote Yes because you don’t like Salmond are you voting No because you like David Cameron? Because that is the logical conclusion of that argument.

No Camapaign

This is one of the most horrid and downright nasty campaigns I’ve ever seen. It’s just scare tactic after scare tactic. It’s an awful, negative debate based on lies and fiddled statistics paid for by corrupt oil money, backed up by Scottish Labour MPs towing the Westminster party line fearful for their own political futures. Guys that are burning their bridges and running down their own nation for their own political advancement. Then there is George Galloway. He wants freedom for everyone, except his own people. That’s because George is a joke in his own country and in the event of Independence worries there will be no place in London for his loud mouth shock Jock shtick.

Honestly, if you want to win people over, do it by selling why the Union works not why Scotland doesn’t. Which takes me to my next point.

Why Do They Want Us?

Now, we have had to watch on for three years as the Tories with their lickspittle Liberal Lapdogs destroy Britain, strip it bare like vultures draining the last profit from the every last available source. The poor are now scroungers, there is a new thing called Working Poor, the NHS is being privatised in all but name, Royal Mail has been sold on the cheap.

They tell us, that Scotland can’t survive alone, they tell us that we take more than we give in this Union. So why would the party of the rich, the party of profit, the party that puts £’s before people, why would they want to continue to subsidise a whole nation, when they won’t even subsidise a disabled person’s spare bedroom?

For me this is the light that shines upon the lie, Scotland is not a drain, if it was they would have cut us loose, they would be leading the Yes campaign. Ask yourself, Why do the Tories want Scotland?

Fairer Society.

This takes me to the crux of the issue. I want, and I know many of my fellow Scots do as well, our children to grow up in a fairer society. A society that cares about the poor, a society that does not send it’s young to all corners of the globe fighting illegal wars, a society that places human dignity higher on the balance sheets than Royal Weddings.

I want English people to have that, I want Welsh people to have that, I want all people in all countries to have that. If it means Scotland separating itself from a broken and corrupt system in order to build this new fairer society, a society that can act as a template for a new way of doing things, a new way of treating each other, well I’m going to vote Yes!

 

I don't reckon it will make much difference either way, except Scotland will waste a shed load of money replicating all the institutions we currently share.

 

Don't believe it will be any fairer society in scotland - politicians don't really care about the poor -a lot of time will be spent wooing big buisnesses to allow the Scottish economy to grow.

 

Yeah I do agree regarding politicians. All lie through their teeth at times. But can we be any worse off? I doubt it.
I really do feel for you guys should we go, left with that shower of greedy selfish sods looking after you.

 

I think it would be a mistake personally - spend a lot of time in scotland - an amazing place with some of the best people I've met but I fear for an independent Scotland.

 

Without a doubt the Yes vote will win

A Yes vote means no more Tories forever..

 

Interesting LR. Care to explain the fear?
TBH I fear for my grandchildren's future under this Govt. TBH I doubt they would have a future.

 

Re: Without a doubt the Yes vote will win

In England it would probably mean tories forever. ..

 

I don't know much about the politics of it all. All I know is that I like Scotland, I tend to like Scottish people, although there's obviously some nob heads in all societies, and I'd prefer to be part of a union with that country and with those people than not. I don't care one way or the other if Scotland puts in more money than it takes out, or the other way around, I just think we'd all be stronger together.

Best of luck if you gain independence, but I think it's a shame that we seem to want to move further apart than closer together.

 

Re: Without a doubt the Yes vote will win

Would the economy be strong enough in the long term? Defence? Monetary system? Trade? There are a lot of things that need addressing - it would be an ideal situation for many but I don't necessarily think that it will be the eutopia many think it will be.

 

Re: Without a doubt the Yes vote will win

personally if I were Scottish I would worry for an Independent Scotland run by Salmond and his cowboy outfit, you say its been a dirty campaign particularly by the NO campaign but what about the YES lot if they have got their sums or ideology wrong basically you are screwed.

 

Re: Without a doubt the Yes vote will win

But as pointed out Salmond is only leading the Independence band wagon. Once achieved a general election will be called to appoint a new Scottish Govt. I really do believe he will fail to get many seats for the SNP and a Scottish Labour Govt will be formed. Of course I could be wrong but TBH Salmond is not very well liked outside SNP circles.

 

Haven't a chance of surviving

 

Re: Without a doubt the Yes vote will win

Opinion suggests that Scotland's economy would be strong enough. Defence, well we will have a token Army. Obviously not as big as the one the UK has ATM but one which would allow us to be members of NATO. The monetary system will be the pound because it is most certainly not in England's benefit for us to have anything different as we would be your closest trade partner and to put extra obstacles in the way would be stupid and unhelpful to both countries.

 

If the final outcome is a Yes vote, I'd like the North of England to join you.

 

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Re: Without a doubt the Yes vote will win

Thats one I'm certainly not sure about Ian..I'd be quite happy for Scotland to keep the pound,but I think Brussels will insist Scotland takes the Euro,as I said in my earlier post I would be very worried I was dissolving a Union that can be separated freely by referendum, as we are seeing now,and then losing independence to the European Union who will be very unlikely to let go.

 

Love to have you aboard. But can you tell me how as a country we have got ourselves governed by such a shower of total parasites.

Yes I know the non events of a Social Democrat Party chose to jump into bed with them and make matters worse. But how could the British electorate have been so shortsighted as to not come out in force to return a socialist govt?

We are certainly all paying a high price for that.

 

Re: Without a doubt the Yes vote will win

There is going to be one hell of a lot of uncertainty in the coming months. We are into uncharted territory but one step at a time. A lot still to happen and when Cameron & Co see that their bullying tactics are not working just see the change in tone which will come from them.

 

I heard a good description on the radio. What Scotland want to do is get divorced from it's wife but keep the house and live together to get your food made for you getting the benefits it chooses to keep.

No way they should keep the pound though, thats one of the things which describes the above.

A lot of the Scottish guys I know in offices up there are a bit fearful, and not keen.

I don't care either way though.