Back To Scottish Independence

I'll say it again, I think it's mental for a Scot to want independence.

Seems pointless the SNP willing to ruin there country for reasons I'm not sure the Scottish people know the truth.

All I say is good luck, I've no probs with it. But wanting to keep true pound just won't work for an independent. It just can't work. Why would it work for Scotland's ecomemy which will suffer to affect our currency.

If Scotland want independence then the leader needs to get his facts right, it's either a lie or an stupid mistake to state that 60 of Englands trade is with Scotland. I'd be worried if I was Scottish to hear he got that wrong. Now if Scotland go for it they need to join the euro or whatever currency they create.

 

Well I canna argue with you Red as I don't have the answers. As I said still a lot to come out in the 6 months to the election.

 

i've no opinion either way on this really (my dad's scottish and firmly in the 'yes' camp) however this latest salmond speech just seems a bit, well, desperate

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26220638

i think they need a slightly strionger 'headline grabber' than it costing uk businesses £500m (lets be honest, a pittance compared to the overall picture), particularly as i'd be fairly confident that this these additional costs would be passed on the the consumer, ultimately.

 

Salmond looks more and more like a man who knows he is starting to lose the argument. I don't think he has sufficiently thought out all the implications and just likes the idea of not being dictated to by any other political power and that he would have a very powerful position in Scotland. Probably though, some of these are arguments which such as UKIP promote for leaving the EU, so w probably can't be too judgemental. I think Scottish independence would be bad for the UK and potential appalling for Scotland.

Don't do it. I rather share a whisky with you any day!

 

I'm all for it, we've had far too many Scots running England anyway. Blair, Brown, McMillan etc and Cameron must be of Scottish descent with a name like that. Not sure if my history is correct but wasn't it a Scottish king who unified the nations in the first place? As a northerner, Scotland appear to get far more investment than South Yorkshire. No sound basis for that other than the amount of road-building, the way Glasgow's been transformed and the free prescriptions they get over the border.

 

They borrowed some money from us. I think it has been paid back.

 

As I understand it, an independant Scotland would have to take on a proportion on the UK Debt. The exact figure would need to be negotiated. They may agree to take on a greater amount of debt if they can "share" the pound.

 

Free prescriptions....

are also in Wales too. do not know about Northern Ireland though.

 

Re: Free prescriptions....

I do feel this arguement is still skewed towards the SNP. The impression I get is that the SNP (not all Scots by any means) are wanting Independence with all the things that they do want and none of the things they don't. They are been very selective on how they want this Independent Scotland to retain and not retain.
They argued that Cameron was taking advantage of circumstances by making a speech at the Olympic stadium, but the referendum is on the date of a famous Scottish victory. The referendum includes 16-18 year olds who are the demographic more likely to vote for independence.
The reports last week on the currency were very strong that Scotland cannot keep the pound, and were extrapolated by "independent" sources in the form of civil servants and the BoE. These are the people who in pratical terms have to make the promises of politicians work in practice and should not be ignored.
The Spanish chap who has spoken out today against an Independent Scotland joing the EU has another agenda, with the Spanish Government watching closely because of the same situation happening in the Catalan region.
I have no personal reason to say in or out, but I feel the Union would be stronger with Scotland than without, and don't believe an Independent Scotland would be a viable country in the medium to long term.
Could I also say, I find it very wrong that the only peoples eligible to vote regarding the future of the Union are Scots. I believe everyone in the UK should be voting on this, not just the Scots. This would be more likely to see an Independent Scotland than this year's vote in my opinion as I do not believe the Scots understand just how much they get extra in taxation spent per head of population than English regions like Yorkshire, the Midlands, the NE and Merseyside.

 

I agree with you, they wouldn't get a say, but also, do they get a say at the moment.

The Bank of England doesn't give a **** what the good folk of Scotland, Yorkshire or even Cornwall think.

They care what the City of London thinks, they care what Westminster thinks and they care what the rich people of Berkshire/Surrey/Hertfordshire think. But not much else.

 

The nations were 'unified' at various points in history, but the latest Union is from 1706/1707.

The Scots asked to join with England to form a political Union, they have every right to ask for that Union to be split up.

However, they asked for a Union because they were bankrupt, if it happens again, will they come running back to us?

 

That's how I see myself too. Don't get why on forms you have to tick Britain or UK for nationality. Those options are a group of countries, England is a nationality. Tick the 'other' box for nationality and put English.