Martin Woods what did you think of the performance on Saturday

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  1. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Personally don't think the formation helped him at all but he's good on the ball and can pass it clearly. Clear as day he's a central midfielder and a good addition in there.

    With Frimpong, Dawson, Mellis, Digby and Woods we've got real quality in there.

    Don't think the others are good enough. Okay Lawrence hasn't started but hes really not looked good enough and not sure why he was brought in or who thought it would be a good idea.
     
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    He's certainly got an eye for a pass and is neat and tidy on the ball. His set pieces looked dangerous too.

    A central midfield of Frimpong, Woods and Mellis gives us some great quality as well as some bite. Stick Jennings on one wing and Paddy on the other and we have a very threatening midfield. Wilson needs to use one of COG or Nick from the start and bring the other on if needed.
     
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    It's a rare occasion where we've two strikers with an eye for goal. I'd not be dropping one to the bench.
     
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    don't think he uses the forum mate
     
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    Yes but we're still not winning games due to not being able to get a grip in midfield.
     
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    I don't think that's been a problem with the goals we've conceeded lately. Midfield didn't make Steele drop the ball or to blame for Mcgoldrick scoring with a deflection in our last home game for example.
     
  7. Hem

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    100% agree with the strikers.

    People who say well he scores, simply goals aren't going to keep us up if we are leaking at the other end.
    Blackpool. Last Clean sheet, Last win, last really good performance, and we scored two goals which we haven't beat with two strikers.
     
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    You're obviously not looking at the bigger picture when you've watched us recently. I can't remember the last time we really dictated a game of football. There hasn't been a game since Blackpool where we have really controlled a game. Thats all down to the 4 we've been playing across midfield. It showed mostly in the Wednesday and Blackburn games. Against Wednesday our failure to a grip of possession cost us a man. Against Blackburn it was exactly the same however Dawson chose to concede the goal rather than take a red card. Ipswich was much the same again, we never really had a spell on dictating play.

    Against Doncaster we stuck 5 in midfield and looked a lot more in control. They weren't tearing through us like Wednesday and Blackburn did. The probably was O'grady is not a winger and couldnt get into the game. In Mellis, Frimpong, Digby/Woods we now have the choice to play 3 central midfielders who can not only get hold of the ball but also play it forwards as well. Controlling the game will allow us to make better use of our very talented wingers, as well as taking pressure off of the defence. An attacking 4-5-1 is definitely the way forward for me.
     
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    Issue is a narrow 1-0 defeat playing 451 won't go down well. Strikers scored 7 in 5 games. One in 13 before then. We might have less of the ball but as equaliser showed, when O'Grady is out wide there is someone in the middle to convert his cross
     
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    Felt he looked equally as comfortable in the centre as he did out wide. Definitely one of our better performers on Saturday.

    Not sure how you can class Dawson as 'quality'. Each to their own & all that though.

    Lawrence hasn't looked up to much but it's a bit harsh to criticise him when he's not started a game.
     
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    Hmmm Blackpool wasn't a 'really good performance' it was adequate against a ramshackle out of form team let's say things as they are not how we want them to be.
     
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    But don't forget Hemmsy needs to find a way to justify dropping Proschwitz despite him scoring 3 in 4.
     
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    Not bad for a winger


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    Woods did ok. Neat enough and can take a dangerous set piece. Not going to pull up any trees or let anyone down.

    I must have missed us playing like Barcelona against Blackpool with 5 across the middle. Looked to me two bad teams playing each other and we had O'Grady.

    In some ways 5 across the middle seems a natural formation for us. However neither O'Grady or Proschwitz are particularly suited to playing the lone striker role. I believed the Idea of signing Frimpong was to add class and steel to our midfield to allow us to play two up front. A central 2 of Mellis and Frimpong should be able to hold their own against most teams in the lower half of the table.

    Proschwitz came here to play because he's not one for sitting on the bench and we aren't going to drop O'Grady are we.

    Wednesday tore us to shreds because of idiocy from Frimpong. Blackburn are a top 8 see it's is unsurprising they dominated possession. Ipswich I thought was an even game. Donny apart from 15 minutes at the beginning of the second half we were the better team.

    Our two in form players are both forwards so we are clearly going to play them.
     
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    And there's more chance of plaiting fog than that happening isn't there unless Danny has a moment of insanity.
     
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    Aye we are looking good in the centre of midfield. Add the Bobster to the list and we do look quality in there. So much so that Woods could be shifted out wide as we have plenty to play in the middle.
     
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    Has the question been relayed on to Martin yet?
     
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    Played well, his corners were first class and if he can keep taking them like that we've got a new weapon in our armoury that we haven't had for years. Can't see any reason why he won't, as every one he hit was right in the mixer. Tired towards the end, but it was a decent debut performance. Hope he keeps it up and goes on to be a good player for us.

    On the other points you brought up...

    I'm sick to death of hearing how bad the formation was at Donny. It worked a treat as far as I'm concerned. Scored two, had a perfectly good goal ruled out out, hit the bar, their 'keeper made a number of great saves. What do people want when we're away from home playing in such windy conditions? We're bottom of the league, our manager hasn't been here two months, we've changed the team around completely, did you think we'd suddenly be blowing teams away? Mental if you did. We were undone by a mistake from our 'keeper, the ref ruling out a legitimate goal and the ball not going out of play when Wilson was desperate to bring on O'Brien, which meant Donny scored before we could change it around.

    Selecting a formation and tactics that you wouldn't choose is not picking the wrong one. I wouldn't have picked the team that Danny did on Saturday either, but after watching the way we played I could see what he was doing and had to concede we were playing better than the team I would have picked. That's why he's a football manager and I'm not. It's why he's a football manager and you're not.

    As for Liam Lawrence, how many games has he played? No starts and three sub appearances. A total of 48 minutes on the pitch including winning the penalty against Blackburn that got us the draw. And from that you can tell he's not good enough?
     
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    We have the most dangerous strike partnership we've had for years and Hemsie wants to drop one of them to play a winger out of position. [​IMG]
     

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