Trust Calls on Supporters to Back the Club

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  1. NIGHTMARE

    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    I'm on about the voices like thee
     
  2. Gally

    Gally Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Right so I assume you are talking about the Trust board members. Again you are wrong though!
     
  3. Whi

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    Why? Did they not know beforehand? Do they not have people regularly making sure the seats are bird **** free?
     
  4. Barnsley Loyal

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    Nothing will be said.

    Makes you fukin sick
     
  5. dearnevalleyviper

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    the supporters call on the club to support the fans.........................bit slow on the complaints about doyles..................not just the young un,s who had complaints.
     
  6. Gally

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    Did you complain though? Last I spoke to Ben Mansford only a couple of people had.
     
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    No once a year by all accounts
     
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    Well no.
    I'm not really sure what to say to you after you've asked for something to be raised with the club by PM in the last 15 minutes.

    Would love to hear why you think that and Alan hasn't been involved for some time
     
  9. dreamboy3000

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    All I really know of Alan Bloore is the coaches to Wembley situation at the back of the east stand back in 2008 when there was no real organisation just him with a megaphone trying to till thousands of people what to do.
     
  10. Gally

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    Yeah I dont think things went great that day BUT to be fair he's done a hell of a lot for Barnsley fans and football fans in general with the work he has done for the supporters club / Trust and FSF over the years.
     
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    Personally speaking I support and endorse this statement but I think it would also like the Trust to issue a statement that states it calls on BFC to vigorously investigate allegations it has received formally and informally regarding the behaviour of employees of the Security firm in charge of match day security. The Trust condemns any form of violence from any party at Oakwell and suggests one way of addressing the issue would be to have supporter engagement, input and involvement in addressing any future security issues at Oakwell.

    That approach would seem to offer the right balance condemning the actions of the idiot minority but defending the interests of most of us.
     
  12. dearnevalleyviper

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    no reply................standard tarn............
     
  13. sadbrewer

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    Gally if you remember we exchanged PM's prior to you phoning BM,I said if my input might be helpful I'd be more than happy to oblige,
    I haven't heard anything since,just wondering if you mentioned it to them.
     
  14. sadbrewer

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    As you may remember I had a bit to say having seen it virtually all,I certainly wasn't accusing Doyles staff of thuggery,they certainly didn't handle these kids particularly roughly..as I'm sure the CCTV shows..what was distasteful was the way they singled the lads out making them stand up and turn their pockets out to see (as we know now) their ST books,lads that to the rest of us in that section could see were doing nothing that warranted ejecting.
    Hearing the Club statement it became obvious they were using the seat issue to put these kids in their place figuratively speaking...had the Club explained the policy and reasoning beforehand by a few posters on the concourse,most of the trouble may well have been avoided.
    As to Ben's statement about Doyles great service to the club I have to differ,Ben's only been here a short time,and hasn't witnessed Doyles inability for years to keep the kids off the pitch at the last match,or when Man U came and smashed up the catering facilities in the away end,many of their fans posted videos of it on Youtube...Doyle's were noticeable only by their absence.I've only ever asked for their help once when a group in the BC family stand were giving a lot of pretty vile racist abuse to an opposition player..the steward said he'd get help and monitor it,he never came back.
     
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    So what's the Trust's response to that? Because all I've seen, with all due respect, is the Trust backing up the Club. Have the Trust contacted Doyle's too?
     
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    Pretty much what I was getting at I don't sit near that bit my mate does and he says the same as you. My experience of Doyle's is similar to yours I approached them once about racism and they did absolutely nothing. Also I feel the foster they perception of 'us and them' they are there as representatives of the club to enhance the match day experience they fail in this by neither being approachable, knowledgeable about the ground etc or friendly nor do the seem to be able to desk with issues effectively.
     
  17. dreamboy3000

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    Yeah it was silly of Ben to talk them up when he's been here two minutes. A little research by him before saying such a thing and he'd have found out the things you mention like how they fail to stop every last home game of the season being ruined or how they didn't help out scared Lindleys staff in the north stand at the Man United game. They never hardly move fans on who block gangways thus make it harder to see the game either.
     
  18. Gally

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    Well probably we should be more visible in our dealings in these sort of situations but a few points on our involvement:

    • We aren't party to the complaints so how do we respond to them? If BFC representatives have behaved in a unacceptable manor then this needs raising with the club and the club have said to us that they will investigate ALL complaints of this manner. They reiterated this in their statement. As I mentioned, I believe there were two complaints. We will follow up on these.
    • We voiced our concerns to Ben Mansford on the Monday following what we saw and read about the incidents. We haven't had any fans raise formal complaints with us.
    • We took the case of of the lad who was thrown out to Ben Mansford and he is now allowed back to Oakwell and his season ticket is being reinstated. He wasn't involved in any of the other issues in the Ponte BTW.
    • We have a meeeting with Ben and Andy Nicholson from Doyles security a week today to discuss this and other stewarding/stadium issues further. All sensible comments welcome
    • We were notified about the anti-social behaviour prior to the Ipswich game. With all due respect, you seem to be under the impression that these lads have been angels. I don't believe this to be the case and their actions at Donny reinforce this. Racist language/ acts of vandalism / breaking seats / setting off pyrotechnics / abusing stewards AREN'T acceptable. 6 of them were arrested at Donny, one for assault. Their actions have caused a 6 year old lass breathing problems and distress. Other fans have been injured on other occasions. Again, I don't think this is acceptable behaviour.
    • They were asked to move to their allocated seats. The area had been cordoned off and closed but they sat there anyway. Do you find this acceptable?
    • There have been ongoing problems with this area all season and the stewards have been on the receiving end of a cart load of abuse during this time. We are also now the subject of a FOURTH FA enquiry this season due to bad fan behaviour. FA fines and increased police costs are the last thing we need.

    So in summary, Yes the Trust ARE backing the club! We've raised issues where we thought it needed raising and represented one of the fans involved with the stewards. Personally, I wonder if their might have been a better approach than what we saw last time at Oakwell but the nicely, nicely approach had been tried and failed a long time back.
     
  19. Mrs

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    Seats rarnd mine in Ponty aint been done for 3 seasons so someone is not doing their job of cleaning them or anyone checking the supposed work done aint doing their job either.

    Shocking really, makes the club come across as though they dont give a (pigeon)**** as long as they have our money. Maybe thats true three seasons is quiet some time.
     
  20. Gally

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    Another example of how football fans are treated like (pigeon) **** in comparison to other customers. We wouldn't put up with it at the cinema or theatre but it seems ok at a football game. That said, I think I'd just take a cloth along with me if it was an issue.
     

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