Pre-match heated debate topics (if anyone's arsed)

Let's pretend that either...
Paul Sykes eventually relented and decided that he wanted to buy the club and pump in millions until we got to the Premier League. But there's a catch - he'll only do so if we wear a red, white and blue kit and change our nickname to the Bulldogs. He says Cardiff have done the same so why cant we.
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0r DannyBobby//Paddy or whoever is charge next season announce that they want to bring in Chris Morgan as coach.

Both unlikely I know, unless Gloria Stilts knows different...

 

With this takeover, do we become the next Barcelona?

 

Don't care about an influx of money. Actually, it's more than that, I don't want one. I want us to succeed doing things the right way. I still think that's possible. I've never been that comfortable with the money that Patrick Cryne has put in and he's a genuine fan doing it for the right reasons. Stopping us from going under, yes, I was extremely thankful for that, but not for signing players. I don't want someone who doesn't care about us at all turning us in to his play thing. And anyway, money doesn't guarantee success any more than not having any guarantees failure. We all know that, we saw what could be achieved on two farts and a bag of balloons in '97.

I like Chris Morgan. I thought he was a brilliant player for us and whenever I've spoken to him he's always come across as a very decent bloke. He fouled one of our players. He should have been sent off. Once the ref only gave a yellow card, that decision should have been overturned and he should have retrospectively received a red. He should also have been banned for further games. It was an ideal opportunity for the FA/FL to send out a message that throwing out an elbow is not part of football and will not be tolerated. Unfortunately, none of that happened.

The outcome of that challenge by Morgan is the worst I've seen since I've been watching football. But it wasn't the worst foul I've seen, not by a long, long way. I've seen both opposition and Barnsley players lash out with their elbows far more vigorously with far more intent on numerous occasions. Fortunately, those challenges resulted in bumps and bruises, or a bloodied nose, or nothing at all. It took an extraordinary set of circumstances for Iain Hume to come away from that challenge with a life threatening fractured skull. Morgan was in the wrong, he was entirely to blame and should have been punished, but Hume was spectacularly unlucky to suffer such serious injuries from that foul. I won't spend the rest of my life blaming Chris Morgan for the inadequacies of football's governing bodies. The foul should have been condemned, I don't hold him responsible for the fact that it wasn't.

So, would I welcome him back to the club as a coach? Absolutely not. The majority of Barnsley fans don't feel the way I do. They hate Chris Morgan. I wouldn't wish to bring in anyone that would alienate the fanbase to such an extreme. My views are out of kilter with the majority and as such not worth a damn. Chris Moragn is the pariah, I don't agree with that view, but that's the way it is and I can't see it changing.

So, none of the above.

 

Morgan's biggest sin was not the elbow or the damage that it caused. You can argue that these things occasionally happen in competitive sport. His sin was that he never apologised or took responsibility for his part in that unfortunate incident. By apologising or showing regret, he would have admitted culpability and would have been liable for GBH/aggravated assault at minimum. Did Hume pursue a civil case, I don't know? Instead, probably under legal advice, he took the coward's way out, buried his head and pretended it never happened. Not just a selfish basterd, but a dreadful role model and club captain at the time too. He had a great reputation as a good lad too, up until that point.
I know a couple of ex pros near me, one a former England international, they know I'm a Reds fan and both said Morgan was universally hated in the game and amongst PFA members. Not for the foul or damage to Hume, but for not being a man and taking responsibility for his actions.

 

As I said at the time I've met Morgan before and seen him out and about int tarn, and from what I've seen of him he's a top bloke, he'll have been instructed not to admit responsibility by his advisors and he listened to them you can't blame him for that

 

Morgan
Took a decision to assault a fellow player
End.
He is a shallow weak thug
Should have been kicked out of the game forever
His actions were indefensible

 

Red Bull are looking to buy a team to take to world domination. I think the sound of "Red Bull Barnsley" sounds pretty good.


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This sums up why I wouldn't go anywhere near Oakwell if Morgan was ever employed by BFC.

 

Me too.

 

Me too. It was by far the worst assault on a football field I've ever seen.

There's been lots of fouls, as Jay says, which have looked bad, but I believe many of them have been tackles which were late, mistimed, reckless etc. The attack by the Thug on Hume was pre-mediated (you can see how he looks at him just before delivering the blow) and a deliberate attempt to injure.

However, we can argue about that all day, but as Mr C says the worst bit was the apparent lack of remorse shown. There may have been some in private, we don't know. It could be that for legal reasons both parties were not allowed to talk about it, we don't know. However, the incident would have been forgotten now if the Thug had apologised to Hume and his home town fans.

I don't want the despicable violent thug anywhere near my football club.

 

When I take over I'm going to re-brand us Barnsley Budgies, due to the popularity of budgerigars as pets in the area.

Kits will be in traditional budgie colours of bright yellow, green and light blue, with the sleeves having a feather design to resemble wings.

Norman Barrett and Charlie Caoroli will provide the half time entertainment with budgies walking tightropes and riding miniature bicycles. Music will be by Welsh rock band Budgie, and Adam Faith who starred in the TV series Budgie.

i would change our big local rivals from Sheffield Wednesday to Norwich City, the evil Canaries.

That's far as I have got with the business plan and I still have to raise another £5m but I am hoping to have everything ready to go by the time the next Edition of the Chronicle comes out.

 

"Evil Canaries" Brilliant! Please tell us more...

 

No. I'll not be a part of franchise football. If Barnsley go down that route, they immediately stop being the club I've supported and loved for decades. I'll walk away and leave supporting of the new set up to others.
If Morgan comes back, I'll certainly not welcome him.

 

I'd rather have the first option of no more championship struggles as a premier league team, instead of the second option of the thug coming back to us.

 

Paul Sykes ( or anyone else) can do that, I'll find summat else to do of a Saturday. I'd have no affinity with such a set up - I've got less with the current set up than I had pre-administration, but I live in hope that one day the club will be returned to my idea of a more inclusive set up and get its assets back.

Morgan ? Depends how much contrition he showed for nearly killing a fellow professional.

 

the entire football league is franchise football already,its just that some franchisees have a lot more money than others.

I'd love the game to be like it was 30 years ago,but it isn't going to happen and unfortunately without money you can no longer compete,its worked its way into the championship and before long we'll be saying the same about the 3rd division.

 

Moving a club from one town or city to another, totally changing the traditional strip, changing the name of the club, considering moving an odd league game to another part of the world in order to 'tap into new markets'. All to appease the whim & ego of a wealthy owner. These are examples of what I consider to be part of franchise football.

 

I like the sound of the budgie idea tbh, even Vincent Tan isn't that visionary

 

Neither.

 

The thing about Morgan is that it could have been so different. Had he done what all right thinking people did at the time he would have accepted responsibility and we could have moved on. He would have got booed if ever he played at Oakwell again but that's it.

The situation we have now is that we have Danny Wilson back and I wonder who is first choice as assistant would be - Chris Morgan, why not? They worked together at BL and they could do so at Oakwell. It might yet happen but a lot of grovelling apologies need to come out of Morgan's mouth first. Then again maybe he likes it better where he is.