to those fans of ours under 30 years of age who today will be shouting "Scab, scab" why they are doing it? They haven't got a fkin clue and never will have, the tossers. "what's a pit" "who's Arthur Scargill?" "what's coal?" It is embarrassing to hear them.
Aye because it's all a huge secret that nobody ever talks about. How can they possibly know? I find your opinion strange. Anyone who reads WSB will have an inkling of what happened. Shock, horror, some of them might actually watch tv.
Agree Conan. Pretty sure 99% of people chanting that today will understand the history behind it regardless of when they were born. History affects us all regardless of whether or not we were alive at the time. Perhaps we wouldn't have so many chavs (seems to be more in poorer areas it would seem) if there was still a thriving industry in the area.
I would applaud them if they managed to sing anti russian songs bearing mind we are twinned with the ukranian town of gorlovka - something far more topical , it would be inventive too Won't happen
For some it will be a reason to give a bit of banter/insults/bile while others from mining families will have a genuine contempt passed down by older generations. To say they know nothing of the strike is an insult.
My dad has talked to his grand kids about the strike and they in turn have asked me what it was like to be their age 13/14 when it all happened. In terms of topicality. 30 years ago this week we were the enemy within. In historical terms that's not even a gnat blinking. When I was growing up my uncles and my dad talked about the earlier strike. We talked about the brothers lost by both my grandads to pit accidents. My uncles and my mam told me stories of my my grandad who I never met who died of the 'pit disease' It's a massive generalisation to assume that young people no nothing of the strike.
We get regular documentaries and films on the Holocaust, and that was years since, but we should never forget history. The miners strike is part of Barnsleys history and The Notts miners sold their own down the river. Hence these lads will know what happened although not in as much detail as some of us. Hence they will let the younger Notts fans know what we think of them. The Notts miners never took to heart the saying,,,,, United we stand parted we fall.
I had a schoolkids view of the strike and saw what it did to families and its only right that history is passed down regardless of which side of the fence you sit on. Personally though i wouldnt stand there and label people who might know someone who did break the strike or happen to live in nottingham as scabs through association. I wouldn't label people who were related or knew peter sutcliffe or ian brady for instance as murderers so therefore wouldn't do it in any other walk of life
So because you weren't born when something happened you can't have an opinion on it? Don't go mentioning things like the two world wars again then.
No its not embarrassing, I like the fact that kids today have at least some idea of our Town's past. History is history and events happened regardless of what your opinions are. I'm not offended when the the Forest fans sing 'Sign on with a pen in your hand & you'll never work again, you'll never work again' Water off a ducks back, although it is ironic. I hope they sing scab loud & proud. Just for the record, I regularly met striking Notts miners during the strike. These people were regularly under severe victimisation and bore the brunt of some horrible actions and abuse in their own communities. However, Ive no doubt that these lads and their families will not give a damn that Forest fans will be called scabs today.
It's a bit late to be chanting It's gone. Sit with a few ex miners, older generation, they think it's just very sad if that's all we've got.