Bigger Cheats Want Smaller Cheats to Carry on Cheating.

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  1. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    Mind boggling, feels more and more like my last season as a football watcher.
     
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    Especially when the Barnsley chairman is the most senior person in the sports department of the law firm trying to ban the financial fair play rules

    one word: untenable
     
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    "The Premier League's chief executive believes there is too much of a gap between the Football League's rules and its own recently introduced financial controls."

    Yes, that's the main problem. For fcuks sake
     
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    Agreed. Mind you, I believe such rules are of dubious legality anyway. It's the mentality of some owners, most of whom are very successful businessmen and have "earned" vast sums of money, that amazes me. I NEVER want anyone like that at Barnsley.

    A football club should run from its football income, not from outside investment. Any business that has expenditure greater than its income is obviously doomed to failure in the long term. A school student running a tuck shop can grasp that. Why can't the imbeciles running football clubs, and football leagues, see it?
     
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    I agree

    But it sums up the footballing industry, unfortunately.
     
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    Re: I agree

    This is beginning to do my head in now. Apparently relegated clubs from the Premiership, with the loss of the TV money, etc, will find it impossible not to make a loss after relegation to the Championship. Well, if you spent more money on wages than the European Cup finalists as you went down (like QPR did) then Scudamore is probably right. However, you could also point towards Blackpool as a club who didn't suffer losses after relegation because they refused to break their wage structure when they went up in the first place. Blackpool have secured their foreseeable future financially by not overspending, although in the short term they are going to feel the affects of having appointed an expensive useless manager. Sure it means that when bigger clubs come sniffing round players like Adams and Ince they are going to struggle to keep hold of them, but when they look down the road at the mess that Blackburn and Bolton are in it will be worth it.

    But I have two easy answers which will stop the gap between the Premiership and Championship leading to heavy losses to relegated teams and will also make the league fairer, more competitive and give hope to the remaining 50-60 football league teams that they may be able to do the unthinkable and one day break into the Championship top ten. Firstly, stop paying the players so much, and secondly distribute the money more fairly. It really is that simple.

    Football teams don't go into administration because TV deals collapse, because they get relegated or anything like that. They go into administration because they are paying their players too much money. Whilst players like Mike Sheron weren't on anything like what gets thrown around on here from time to time they were still on far too much money for a club our size. We were paying wages to the limit of what we could afford, beyond it even, so that when a chunk of income suddenly disappeared we weren't able to juggle it around, because almost every penny of income had already been promised to players in wages and bonuses. Even now, things like the heaters in the disabled stand, the TVs on the concourse and the much maligned scoreboard can not get sorted out, because we don't have the budget for them, and why do we not have the budget for them? Because we are paying the players too much. When you think of how many professionals we have that aren't getting a game it is scandalous. And we are probably one of the two lowest paying teams in the division, along with Yeovil. But why are we having to pay the players more than we can necessarily afford? Because it is a knock down from Wayne Rooney's latest pay rise.

    Loads of businesses around the country have gone under in the last decade, but I would wager that very few did so because they were paying their staff way more than their annual turnover. So for the Chairman of the Premier League to come out and attack the first measure the yellow streaked Football League have tried to implement to reign the clubs in a bit it says it all. Football is going to eat itself. If it continues, in twenty years time or maybe even sooner there will not be a football league beyond twenty odd multimedia corporations.

    Love Barnsley, hate football. Come on Dyson, that's a gift of a t-shirt slogan!
     
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    Re: I agree

    Like I've said before football is like a snake which is so hungry it decides to start eating its own tail. It defies all logic and common sense, and still people defend it.

    As I've also said before, it's like someone who takes on a mortgage payment far bigger than their monthly income, then goes around bragging about what a superb house they "own".

    Total madness.
     
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    Re: I agree

    Isn't there a big difference though in that football clubs do this in the hope that their potential huge loss will be recouped if they get promoted? Doesn't make it right though
     
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    Re: I agree

    Can't stand that Scudamore, self important w@nker
     
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    Re: I agree

    Out of the 24 clubs in the Championship, only 3 will get promoted, and 1 or 2 of those will in all likelihood be clubs who came down the previous season. So only 1 or 2 "real" championship clubs will go up each season and collect the dosh.

    Despite that, I reckon (guessing) that over half of them are overspending in the hope of promotion. That's about 12 or more clubs fighting for 1 or 2 places. Those that fail will eventually have to sell players or go bust. Utter madness.
     
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    I like how it never occurs to Scudamore that his organisation is getting it wrong. They don't see what happened to Portsmouth and Coventry as being of there doing. If it wasn't so tragic it would be funny.
     
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    I'd just wish that..

    People dint ort to let things get too em, that are out of their control..

    grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
     
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    I can't even be arsed reading about the premier league / football expenditure anymore. The sooner they all go bust and the mentally unstable narcissistic owners disappear back where they came from the better for the game and its long term health.
     

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