This much rumoured and even more denied takeover

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  1. e-red

    e-red Well-Known Member

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    I predict that my conclusion at the end of this thread will not be welcomed, so be it, it's what I think.
    I'll admit that same as most fans if they are honest, I felt a little bit of excitement when I heard of a possible takeover. Then common sense sets in, why is a new ground being mentioned at this point? How does that benefit the team on the field? It's not as though we are locking thousands out every week. The not so hidden agenda about use of land and profit on redevelopment is clear to see.
    I then thought about what made me excited about the prospect in the first place and the conclusion I've come to is that a takeover offers an escape from the butter realities of our situation and the state of football in general.
    There are three ways to thrive in this division:
    1) Have a very rich and supportive sponsor
    2) Have parachute payments
    3) Have a board of risk taking chancers, who don't mind ruining the club, because they know that they can personally walk away with full pockets after did charging the football debts. (The trick here is distinguishing the difference between number one and number three)
    These rules even apply to big clubs and even massive ones (take a look down the road)
    Just a minute - did I say realities of our situation. It seems to me that the third option is covered under law and is in fact unlawful behaviour, so when is a chancing chairman going to go to jail? when is a big club going to be forced to close its doors and sell it's assets including its ground?
    We are offered financial fair play as if the balancing of the books is a new thing, spending money knowing that you haven't got it is fraud pure and simple.
    For Barnsley seeking a category on solution is like buying a lottery ticket and praying for a win. We've heroically punched above our weight for years, maybe it's time to find a league in which we can compete financially as well as on the field. Bring on division 1.
     
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    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

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    Well, you're absolutely spot on...

    ...I do not welcome that conclusion.
     
  3. e-red

    e-red Well-Known Member

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    Re: Well, you're absolutely spot on...

    As I predicted, it's not such a bitter pill to swallow however, it's not as if we have a choice. That should read category one solution btw.
     
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    Re: Well, you're absolutely spot on...

    Don't think you can say we've punched above our weight to be honest, by that argument teams like Wigan and Fulham would be in League Two or lower.
     
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    Re: Well, you're absolutely spot on...

    Double post.
     
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    Re: Well, you're absolutely spot on...

    Neither do I.
     
  7. e-red

    e-red Well-Known Member

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    My argument is that the championship is financially above our weight, and remains so even if others punch above there weight better than we do. I would put the two clubs you mention in category one anyway.


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    . We've heroically punched above our weight for years, maybe it's time to find a league in which we can compete financially as well as on the field. Bring on division 1.[/QUOTE] up to the above point you were right
    Division one isnt the answer the answer lies with the governing bodies football is in a mess and the fa stand there and let clubs cheat by spending monies they dont have until they step up to the plate and do something about it ....it will only get worse
     
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    I agree completely with the post. Historically we have been a solid Championship club now as football has become skewed by money we cannot compete at that level anymore. We need to accept our new status and move on. It may not last forever as clubs overreaching themselves fold but for now I'd say we have the financial ability to maintain a reasonable position (between 8th and 12th) in League 1. I think if you can't accept that the next few tests will be full of pain for you.
     
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    Every club should have a long term plan to compete at the highest league possible, excepting your going to be languishing in League 1 would be welcomed by many of the bigger clubs and owners.

    Successful teams build up their fan base and sponsorship opportunities its just having the right strategy in place throughout the club to all pull in same direction.
     
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    Its chicken and egg though isn't it?

    It's much easier to generate better quality sponsors and a new generation of fans when a team is doing well.

    Sadly at present we feel like a broken club all the way through. Lack of our own youth getting first team action, lack of spirit in the 1st team squad, apathy and much resignation among the fans and a distinct lack of tangible positivity to cling to.

    It was welcome to see Danny's reaction after the Watford game and to hear the players were locked in for nearly an hour. It's almost ridiculous to consider we can still stay up because for the vast majority of this season we've been abject. But til it's mathematically impossible, we have to have hope, even if we haven't quite got the belief.
     
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    If you look at our attendances pre the miners strike, we were one of the best supported teams in the division.

    Now we are one of the worst.

    A combination of economic factors & poor quality football in the post Bassett era could be blamed.
    The club could certainly be better run commercially, asa we all know, but there probably is a limit to how
    much further that could take us.
    Managers having the balls to bring through youth players would be the real solution... John Stones sale lead to a £2 million profit last year.
    We are probably not going to bring someone of his calibre through more than once a decade, but we should
    be bringing one or two into the first team each season.
     
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    'butter realities'...

    sorry - that made me chuckle!
     
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    Wonder what the management think?
     
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    couldn't disagree more, if we can't aspire to be at least a middling championship club we might as well just jack it in
     
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    e-red Well-Known Member

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    Nobody seems to have picked up the penalty of law for fraudulent directors. Surely this should level the playing field.


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    e-red Well-Known Member

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    Will Leeds be the first club allowed to go to the wall?
     
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    I don't think they will.

    Somehow they will get out of it like they always do and end up in the same situation yet again.


    Hopefully I'm wrong and they'll be up **** creek.
     
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    Then eventually the crowds will drop as in the sixties then we find we are allegedly punching above our weight in div one so we drop down to div two as in the sixties then we almost go out of buisness as in the sixties .
    IMO this is not the way to go experience should tell us that going down with the intention of coming back stronger is at the very least flawed ad very naive
     

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