Possible takeover & move from Oakwell stalling, according to this

Re: Gives us all we need?

What are they? I've read people being accused of being stuck in the past (and much worse) for not wanting a new ground, but I haven't read what the positives are. Apparently it brings in more fans, but I haven't seen any proof of that, how long that lasts and whether it offsets the outlay spent on building the new ground in the first place. Does it bring in larger crowds if the team isn't doing well? Considering all the money will have been spent on the new ground rather than the squad, there's every chance the team won't be doing well.

Oakwell has enough seats to accommodate us all at present and is also big enough should we ever enjoy success. It has it's own large car park and is close enough to Barnsley so fans can use the additional town centre car parks (free on Saturdays and Tuesday nights) without a long walk. It's very close to the bus and train stations. It has training pitches, indoor training pitches and gym facilities all in house. How would a new ground improve on all that? Genuinely interested?

 

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it needs more than a lick of paint, its geographical location and land size is ideal but it needs pulling down and a new one building in its place. Oakwell is a museum to the past and a terrible match day experience. We still rip tickets out of a season ticket book ffs. Gone are the days where supporters were happy to stand on a grass bank to see their team religiously every Saturday, £25 is a big ask if the facilities, service and general atmos are 20 years out of date.

 

Re: Apart from the fact that the facilities are terrible

To be honest, you big gay bear, I don't know how seriously I can take a proposition to move grounds when one of the very few advantages mentioned is that we might be able to hold pop concerts at the new one. In Barnsley? Will we ****. We can't fill the assembly rooms at the Civic.

Oakwell needs tarting up, no argument there. It needs £thousands spending on it. It doesn't need tearing down and building elsewhere at the cost of £millions, where in every liklihood we'll end up with something far less fit for purpose than we've already got.

That's not being stuck in the past, that's critically evaluating the present and not being romanticised by the notion that a new ground would suddenly make everything rosy. It wouldn't.

 

Re: See above

I go to watch the football not for a day out at a footy fround.

Pop concerts in tarn? gioor.

Town with the lads for a few drinks then head off up to Oakwell. Only thing I agree with is the scoreboard needs changing.

Have a look at Jay's argument. Oakwell is perfect for a club like us.

 

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Re: I would absolutely 100% support a move away from Oakwell

The same thing really isn't it?

Dave Hodgson?

 

Dont subscribe to the view that we cant so we wont

Grounds are built on the back of corporate sponsorship, regional investment funds, local and national government initiatives, its not a short term view far from it, a new ground is something to be proud of and an asset that we could use, partic if close to motorway links.

You're being miserable cos you've sat in your seat for umpteen years and dont like change. Boo to you.

 

Re: Dont subscribe to the view that we cant so we wont

For one night only, Elton John, live from the Chicago Rock stadium Birdwell.

I'm in.

 

Re: Dont subscribe to the view that we cant so we wont

I wouldn't be proud of a new ground. Far from it infact.

I'd see it as taking the club from where it belongs and plonking it somewhere convenient for people on the motorway to get to. That only makes it good for away fans. And not for the ones that like to have a little drink pre-match. What about the history? the uniqueness of Oakwell compared to every single new 'bowl' ground?


Actually, this is my first year in 'my seat'. And I'm not even in front of it most match days, usually up or down a few. So no, I'm not against change. Completely unfounded argument there, I'm afraid.


And I'm 23. I have to say it's surprising, and a little disheartening, to see someone (presumably) older than I am not give a **** about our history.

 

As Ive pointed out, your a good representation of why the club/town is going nowhere

everythings fine, lets just stand still, paper over the cracks, ignore the dwindling numbers, lack of interest, negative portrayal, its what Barnsleys all about, pride in our history of achieveing very little.

If 5 or 6 pints before going in is where you're at, Im not surprised you havent noticed that the place is falling down.

 

Re: As Ive pointed out, your a good representation of why the club/town is going nowh

Do you think it's our stadium or the people in charge that's the problem?

I see your points, don't agree with 'em but I think the lack of leadership is our issue, not that our ground needs a lick of paint.

 

Re: As Ive pointed out, your a good representation of why the club/town is going nowh

Getting a bit adventurous Dys....

 

Re: As Ive pointed out, your a good representation of why the club/town is going nowh

Viva la revolution.

 

Both, clearly

although reading the level of resistance to moving from Oakwell from people who are clearly stuck in a time warp probably means the people in charge think there's no point floating the idea.

 

well I have heard of two reasonable places to re-locate to

one being off J37 at Dodworth... the other being off J36 at Birdwell.

Now correct me if I am wrong , but last time I looked both those locations had Pubs quite close by... so for the ones who need to be drunk before a game that argument holds no water (bad pun sorry).
I have been looking on the Guide to football grounds and some of the new grounds look just fine to me

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/.

I am neither for or against a re-location. But If the event were to happen then I would suggest they build no more than a 15k seat ground, with the ability to add second tiers if there is ever a need. A smaller ground would have more atmosphere I would have thought.

 

Re: Gives us all we need?

I think the important question is what is the future at Oakwell? What are our ambitions and can they be achieved without a radical change?

I know it sounds good to have all the facilities and land on hand but what good has this actually done for the people that stand on the terraces? or maybe sit in a seat

 

Re: As Ive pointed out, your a good representation of why the club/town is going nowh

Nahh usually aim for 8.

I have noticed all of the structural engineers closing the ground down though. Can't move for em.



In seriousness though - lick of paint and a few improvements (score board etc.) yes. It's definitely needed.

A completely new ground & training facilities? No.

 

Re: As Ive pointed out, your a good representation of why the club/town is going nowh

Birdwell? Where exactly?? This thread's off it's head!!