The Difference Between Match Fixing and Spot Fixing

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  1. WorsbroughRed

    WorsbroughRed Active Member

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    In organized sports, match fixing occurs as a match is played to a completely or partially pre-determined result. Match-fixing generally refers to fixing the final/half time result of the game.


    Spot fixing is where a specific part of a game is fixed. Examples include something as minor as timing the first throw-in or corner in association football.




    Hopefully that clears the difference up.
     
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    It does, although both aren't acceptable if 'manufactured' for monetary gain. This isn't a slant at Daws but in general, it's just not right. I hope he's not embroiled in it.
     
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    There's no difference...It's cheating.
     
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    Both are cheating by definition, but there's a world of difference between Real Madid bribing referees to win European Championships (as they did in their sordid past) and Matt Le Tissier trying to kick the ball out for play to iwn a bet on the time of the first throw-in.
     
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    Nope...Both are cheating.

    Window dress as much as you like...It's cheating.
     
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    Why is it possible to bet on trivial details like the timing of a throw in? Surely that's an obvious invitation to manipulate a game and cheat, without affecting the outcome of a game?

    It's asking for people to break the law and betting on things like that should be banned. Any yes I know it will be difficult to decide where to draw the line.
     
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    Both are still cheating regardless of the scale of the outcome.
     
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    North West footballers will give you 5/2 to draw the line now.
     
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    It's a difficult one and a discussion that could go on and on.

    It could be argued that Le Tiss deliberately giving away possession by putting the ball out of play could alter the overall outcome of a game?!? Leading to the opposition getting possession etc. just playing devils advocate like!

    But it just guts me that these (IMHO) overpaid players, can vastly enhance their wages by cheating their way to collect 'bets' that aren't infact anything to do with gambling. As the only gamble, cos theyre manufacturing the outcome, is if they get caught or not!!!!
     
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    In fact I think all betting should be banned. Including the lottery and scratch cards. I bet hardly anyone agrees.
     
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    I see where you're coming from and agree to a point. We'd never know what happened in the game had he kept the ball in play, it would unquestionably have been an entirely different game. But whilst it is still cheating I still don't think it's the same as just handing a ref £10k and saying "We'd like to win pleased".

    Agree entirely.
     
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    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    Must have missed this at the time and goes very close to the bone - seemingly lots of players involved. My bold.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...-claus-lundekvam-claims-1139455#ixzz2xuDzL5xh


    For balance this was denied by former team mates. FIFA investigated it, but i cant find any mention of the results of said investigation


     
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    whichever way you look at it its fraud, and how can you say that it doesn't affect the result when the betcan be on a penalty being awarded or even a yellow card if the player picks up another (that he didn't want) and gets sent off!
     
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    That wasn't what i was referring to, but yes, if it's a penalty, then yes clearly that can directly affect the outcome.

    Can anyone think of anything suspicious or odd looking in the last season?
     
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    Match fixing

    <img src="http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01017/maradona5_1017085c.jpg">





    Spot fixing

    <img src="http://www.teenagehealthfreak.org/sites/default/files/spots_worse.jpg">
     
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    Like I said, "Both are cheating by definition". By degree, one is worse than the other. Whilst killing someone is murder - there's clearly a difference between premeditated murder and manslaughter.
     
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    Each can be as serious as the other. If you need to make sure there were say 10 goal kicks in a game and there is two mins to go with the count sat on 9 wand you have the chance to shoot where do you put it?
     
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    That Craig Davies penalty against Birmingham - cheating b*stard deliberately wellied it high into the stands allegedly :).
     
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    Don't get me wrong, they're both illegal and have no place whatsoever in the game.

    There is a difference though in deliberately losing a game to kicking the ball out for a throw in (even though the throw in could lead to a goal etc.).

    Both are very wrong, I was just saying that there is a difference in the two. That's all.
     

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