Whitey / Scrappy if your up for it

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Have a watch of that when you sober up, or mature.

That's why I rate him.

He was poor again tonight. No question about that. But so were the entire midfield five in my opinion.



He's a very talented laiker who's given me some great moments in his time here, and frustrated me just as much. But at least there have been a fair amount of moments. My POTY last season, we'd have been ****** without him. Wish I could say the same about a few others..


But yes, 1-0 to thee, pal.

 

If he decided to try that is

 

I gave you a decent response didn't I?

 

To be fair you're both right. You're right that Mellis has been awful all season & Whitey's right that he's a good player as he showed us he is last season.

The issue is he doesn't want to be here & his performances make it perfectly clear.

 

He was no worse than woods, Cywka and Dawson tonight though.

Yes he was by a country mile !!! he was bloody woeful. Wouldn't play in 1st team again for me

 

Not one of those three would for me.

 

You gave me a good description of what he is supposed to do - I just don't think he does things and didn't do them again last night.

 

I reckon it's to do with generations and the type of player you like.

Old school prefer a runner who just tries. I like a player who can do something.

Just don't think where played Mellis with Danny assuming he could play like Lawrence was good for him, also putting McCourt on where he can't do what he does.

Put them further up the pitch Danny there wasted there. If u want a midfielder Frimpong was there.

Bad choice with putting McLaughlin deeper too. Out of position for the goal but to be fair he had a decent game. Bit why not put Bobby at rb?

Negative up front which was our downfall with lack of support for cog and continued long balls to him up against 3 players.

 

I agree that he didn't have a great game last night but he was trying to play for three people. I know he is limited but I think most people would take Dawson over Mellis every day of the week.

 

Some peoples idea of football seems to be watching Stephen Dawson miscontrolling in the ball, passing to the opposition and crossing to the crowd. Seems bizarre to me but then again he does try had I suppose. Nowt so strange as folks. Weird that we always seem to need a boo boy at Oakwell and it's always the creative players. Yet we then whinge about the 'ale house league' . You can't have it both ways can you.

 

Most people are blind, then.

 

I still don't understand this whole attitude on here where creative players aren't expected to work hard. This might of been the case 20-30 years ago but you simply can't get away with it in this league.

McCourt, Mellis, Cwyka & any others should put a shift in, we've seen far more talented players at Oakwell this season who give there all for 90 minutes (Hughes, Knockaert, Ings etc) yet we make excuses for our own letting us down.

I've seen an argument on here about who you'd play between Dawson & Mellis, I don't particularly rate either at this level. Dawson's struggles ability wise & Mellis lacks the commitment to be any use. For different reasons both aren't up to it

 

Don't worry about Mellis because in a few games time we will never see him again because no matter what league we are in I can't see Danny giving him a contract.

 

It's getting increasingly boring reading that if you don't rate Mellis, you must hate creative players and just LOVE triers so much.

Nope, love creative footballers. I just haven't seen Mellis do anything remotely creative for quite a while which renders him pretty useless.

 

It's a case of playing to an individual's strengths, rather than expecting them to be a jack-of-all-trades and master of none. Both types can make a positive contribution to the team. The higher up the footballing pyramid you go, the more likely you'll see the better players capable of supplying both. They are then able to command far more substantial salaries, which only the wealthier clubs can afford to pay. Likewise, the further down you go, the more likely it will be that the player has some deficiency to their game & therefore becomes more affordable to clubs with a much reduced budget. Some of us prefer to watch a skilful player, rather than an athlete. It's a personal choice & opinion.

 

It always amuses me that people think we can attract creative players who are also tough tackling and run around like a kid on Ritalin. Those type of players are so far out our reach it's untrue. The closest we have Dale Jennings cost us a quarter of a million quid and is still very much a work in progress. Stoke paid 2.5 million for Brek Shea and he is no better than anyone we have. It's just living in cloud cuckoo land. As the big fella says above the further down the pyramid you go the less likely you are to be able to attract this type of player. I suppose it cones down to this as a fan of a club who cannot afford the complete midfielder. Do you want to watch entertaining players who can play or athletes who run around but have little talent.

 

Like I mentioned. Mellis was played too far back with not enough in front of him to work from. Whenever he went to far forward Wilson went barmy pointing where he should be.

It's not his game and no idea why people can't see that.

Sorry Danny, you f***ed up. If you wanted a proper central midfielder you had Crimping on the bench or even Bobby who you love to ignore

 

Yes I would like to watch entertaining players everyday but even they have to put some effort in to entertain.
Its wrong to say players that are skillull can ply their trade without the effort. Imo if mellis put the effort in he can be quite entertaining but he's chosen not to do that so much this seaon

 

Not particularly disagreeing about Mellis who is trying everyone's patience but he had just as much or as little impact last night as any of our midfielders including Dawson who was back to his worst. Scapegoating a particular player is never a good idea but we do it far too often. Last night Woods was worse but at the end of the day our entire midfield was very poor. In terms of Mellis he never seems to have recovered from Flitcrofts doomed attempt to turn him into a winger that seems to have led to a loss of belief which translates as a lack of effort.

What I'm saying is that we at Barnsley will seriously struggle to attract a total footballer. Eric Cantona famously had a hod carrier. At the end of the day why do we celebrate the hod carriers and denigrate those who can hurt the opposition. What's easier running around a lot or being a creative force?

 

Fair enough.
Agree about scapegoating also there's a difference in criticism and scapegoating .but some were booing mellis and others whilst game in play last night absolutely crazy imo .