Would it be really that bad in league 1?

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  1. sel

    selby Well-Known Member

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    The way I see it we can't compete financially at championship level and a year on year struggle is really draining for everybody involved with the club.

    If we do go down at least we will be able to compete and we might even be a contender at the top end of the table for a change.

    Relegation isn't something I'm relishing but if it does happen I will still be there watching my club on a more level playing field away from all the money mad championship clubs in their either old fashioned living in the past or boring bowl stadiums and false hope.

    If we stay up we stay up but if not I'm looking forward to a better season next year without a relegation battle (fingers crossed)
     
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    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    I'm looking forward to it, championships too strong for us and as been for years
     
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    Mind blowing whenever anyone thinks relegation isn't that bad. We lose millions and i'd rather us punch above our weight against big teams in front of big crowds.
     
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    MrsHallsToffeerolls Well-Known Member

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    Whey hey summat I agree wi thi on.
     
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    piss off to Swillsboro then

    or Bellend road
     
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    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    It's killing club slowly but surely year on year crowds are getting lower and lower because people are getting sick of the struggle
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Might as well close it down then.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Crowds are up more than 10% on last year.
     
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    There's a huge difference in TV money between the Championship & League 1, something between £5m & £6m I believe. Also, there are different financial regulations in Division 1. A club can only use something along the lines of 60% of it's turnover on wages. As a club which has spent the last eight years in the Championship, there's likely to be huge financial cuts made to the running costs. Income from gate receipts will be reduced. Relegation usually brings upon it's own fall in attendees amongst the supporters. There's already been some on here who have said they won't continue to attend if we go down, others if we retain Wilson as manager. Also, the opposition will rarely be able to bring the same number of away fans as we get in the Championship. A number of folk have said we need a clear out of playing staff this Summer. That would include players out of contract and those signed up, as we may be in a position to bring in a transfer fee for them. All these players would need to be replaced, by newcomers on lower wages due to the huge reduction in the club's budget. Perhaps the type of player we could attract may be experienced pros coming towards the end of their careers (eg. Edwards, Ilic, Handysides, Ireland, Gallimore, Vaughan), or those looking for an opportunity to move up a level from where they currently play (eg. Wiseman, Done, McNulty, Collins, Perkins). The potential opposition of Burton, Crawley or Stevenage may not appear as attractive to the undecided Barnsley fan as, say, Sunderland, Norwich, or Leeds.
    Health permitting, I'll be back down as usual next season. But I see no reason, as yet, to believe we'll do well and not face another struggle.
    Just my opinion.
     
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    I've only seen the club relegated 3 times in my 48 years supporting the club ('72; '98; '02) and I would love to think that we could stay up and then hold our own in the championship next season. But we won't do either of these things. Football has changed for good (rather than for the better). The best we can hope for is another day out like the one we had at Cardiff in 2006. Or some oil-rich arab willing to overlook the fact that Barnsley doesn't have a major airport within sensible or predictable commuting time. Wish it was different but....
     
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    Why?

    Look at the situation we are in and have been for the past 8 years. All I'm saying is would it be that bad going down and having a better chance of competing?
     
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    Good post. Started going regularly in 1980. So only seen 2 relegations, and 1998 was predictable and didn't feel bad, disappointing yes but felt proud of the club. 2002 really did hit me, recall being slumped in my seat for 5 mins after the Norwich game feeling numb. I don't think I'll feel as bad as that if we go down this season, mainly because we've been fighting relegation ever since we came back up.
    The club have been trying to do things right financially, but while ever clubs are allowed to just throw money at it we'll struggle if we can't do the same. At least in L1 there are restrictions on spending based upon income and we will be on a level playing field and possibly one of the better off clubs.
     
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    Course not we might even managed to win a home game occasionally. I'm completely ambivalent to be honest. We cannot compete financially in the Championship we need time to develop a different plan and structure to enable us to move forwards.
     
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    I was saying to someone this morning - why would Wolves celebrate promotion from League One in any other than a very muted way? Thanks to the obscenity that is 'Parachute Payments' they won a race where all their competitors were forced to give them a 50 yard start in a 100 yard race. At least I've finally cancelled my Sky subscription.
     
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    Like you, I don't think I'll feel anything like as bad this time 'round.

    Maybe other things in life are more important.
    Maybe I've fallen out of love with football a bit.

    The biggest thing to hurt will be being in a lower division than Donny (and possibly Rotherham). All my life we've had the upper hand on those two clubs.

    But if I'm honest I can see the appeal of (hopefully) winning a few more games, not knowing before kick off that we're going to lose away, and going to a few different grounds. I'm just worn down with the continual relegation battle.

    Season Tickets renewed this afternoon, regardless.
     
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    Financially it will hit the club hard on and off the pitch , and we wouldn't be certainties to come straight back up too .
     
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    I think Rotherham got promoted to Championship last time we got relegated!
     
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    Really? I must have conveniently missed that!
     
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    Re: Would it be really that bad in league 1? YES IT WOULD

    We are in the mess we are in because those in charge at the club see survival at Championship level as success and have let that level of low expectation spread like a cancer thoughout the club including to the playing staff and previous team management. So what happens next season if we are in league one will the powers that be set automatic promotion as a target or will survival be enough again, we didn't bounce straight back up last time did we. The players we have have no confidence in their ability because they have had it drummed into them that they aren't meant to be playing at this level and that the club is punching above its weight just by avoiding the drop every season and i'm sick of hearing it.

    We have been at championship level longer than any other club, look at Burnley a club of a similar size to us who with good management have got to the premier league and look like getting there again if they can why cant we. In business if you stand still and don't push on others pass you and you start to go backwards and once you start going backwards its hard to stop. Just take a look at how many former league teams are in the conference some of whom we were playing in the championship not that long ago and think hard before you acccept relegation because it may not stop with one. We fought hard to get back up we dont want to give in with out a fight this season and the people in charge at the club have to start to set higher goals for the club and push people to achieve them.
     

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