Building relationships with top teams

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  1. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Can't we do both?

    There should be know free pass to squad for these players either. They have to show when given the chance that there good enough to play.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_ebMrr7aag a few clips of Islam feruz. Looks a finisher. It would be for me, go on Danny show us why you should be in the team and not Feruz
     
    Hemsworth Tyke, Apr 22, 2014
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    Carl Dickinsen, Ryan Shotton, Diego Arismendi, Michael Tonge, Jack Butland, Brek Shea. Have I missed any out?
    To answer your question, mate, I'd say yes.:D
     
    JLWBigLil, Apr 22, 2014
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    Also we had Walters but we got hom from Bolton I believe
     
    Jack Tatty, Apr 22, 2014
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    Isn't it all about money and how much of the wages a club can pay? Has it occurred to you we can't pay upwards of 10K a week to take one of these rising stars?
     
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    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

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    Correct and correct, mate.
    Seven players on loan from the same club in just a few years.
     
    JLWBigLil, Apr 22, 2014
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    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    I would have thought if you can prove you will improve there player they will loan them for free.
     
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    Stoke City

    Phil

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    Does that answer your question?
     
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    And you moon is made of dairylee.
     
    Jack Tatty, Apr 22, 2014
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    Fat lot of good it's done Birmingham.
     
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    We have one with Stoke.
     
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    That cheek kid at Chelsea is on 30k a week.

    That's at a guess in the 10x our average wage region.

    The crack with loan players is you've to pay a rental fee then contribute to the wages on a sliding scale depending on age and game time.

    It's how both manchester teams operate and I suspect Chelsea as well.

    Still you advocated the EPP ******** didn't you..
     
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    Thank you. I knew there were quite a few but I just wonder if the OP considers Stoke as meeting his criteria.
     
    MarioKempes, Apr 22, 2014
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    Don't see the point of loaning young 'ens off top teams if they aren't any good. We've had more dodgy ones from Man Utd than good ones, they always seem to be overrated simply because of how prestigious their parent club is.

    Liverpool seem to be producing good youngsters, a lot breaking into the first team, I'd be keeping an eye on their youth teams if we really want to carry on down the loan route. McLaughlin has looked decent (attacking-wise anyway) and Hammill was obviously a good one a few years back.
     
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    No.

    By the way, Steele was at Man United early in his career and won he FA youth cup with them. Would you have wanted to loan him in back then?
     
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    It's hardly a recipe for long term success or stability is it? We need to get back to developing our own youth players properly so that we get players in the mould of Eaden, Liddell, Moses etc coming through again. Add to that a decent scouting network to uncover the De Zeeuws and Marcelles and we would have a club to be proud of again.

    Hate the number of loan players that we (and most other clubs for that matter) seem to rely on.
     
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    Barnsley got Drinkwater from Manchester united and I think getting players in like that wouldn't help.

    I do think the EPPP is a good thing DeeTee.
     
    Hemsworth Tyke, Apr 23, 2014
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    A few?

    Butland, Shea, Delap, Tonge, Arismendi, Shotton, Dickinson. And that's just in the last 4 or so years, I've probably missed one or two as well. We certainly have some sort of deal with Stoke, and the majority of these lads were senior players, not untried young lads.

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