The rot started when the board appointed that Manc w*nker Keith Hill. All Hill did was get in his lower league bum chums which set the rot in and we have never recovered. You could tell after 3 or 4 games that pot pr*ck was way out of his depth and the board through their lack of ambition and trying to save every penny they can have brought us todays relegation. The scatter gun multi player lower league transfer policy has now proper bit them on the arse and sent the club back years. I bet Mark Robins is p*ssing himself tonight. We are littered with a team of loans and players who are simply not good enough and do not give a flying f*ck about BFC and its supporters but will happily take their thousands of pounds a week like leeches. Danny Wilson has inherited mostly utter sh*te and even Jesus could not have saved us. The only blessing now is he can get rid of the dross and build again and he must use the youth also. So take a look in the mirror tonight board members, it is you through your penny pinching which has brought us todays relegation. Certain players should also look in the mirror tonight because they have been a disgrace too. Wilson should play the under 21's full team next week and make the rest sit in the stands with proper people who work their arses off all week to pay the primadonna's wages. 7 or 8 players have heart's like f*cking peas, gutless, spineless set of w*ankers, I hope are never seen at Oakwell again, pay them up and f*ck them off.
I have to agree that appointing the Hillcroft two was a major mistake by the club and our relegation is largely as a result of those two being allowed to manage our club.
Easy to say regarding Hill, in hindsight. It pains me to say it, but at the time I thought it was a good appointment. No experience at this level, but a manager that had got a small club like Rochdale out of League Two, and then achieved a very respectable finish in League One on a shoe string budget. It didn't work out, but we did have a good spell up until Butterfield got crocked, and Drinkwater/Vaz Te departed. I can't stand the man, and was happy to see the back of him. Wilson has inherited 'sh*te', but he also brought in 'sh*te' of his own with the likes of Shea and Frimpong. The job to keep us up wasn't impossible, we still had a good chance of it when he took over. He's made many tactical decisions, substitutions, etc that have left me baffled. He's definitely not the one to blame, I don't doubt that, but he's had long enough to show his abilities as a manager and he hasn't impressed. On the Robins comment.. he's spending big money at Huddersfied, like a nine figure fee on Nahki Wells, yet Huddersfield are going to end up with less points than we managed last season. Not exactly great, is it? Anyway, onto next season. Time for many player changes and the opportunity to get that 'feel good factor' back at Oakwell.
I agree 100% I am not a fan of Keith Hill but just as he seemed to be achieving something, Vaz Te, Drinkwater and Butterfield disappeared within one month, The following year after a demolition of Brum, Davies was sold. Danny is the man for me but I've always been a fan. As for the finances the board, such as it was, was between a rock and a hard place. 'Sign for us' not a ****ing chance unless I have a release clause at £1.5m when Norwich, Leicester, West Ham offer me £20k per week. Football is truly ******
Spot on with that, and with bringing Hill in being a big mistake! Not sure about the 'penny pinching' though
The penny pinching board appointing that idiot Hill have brought us to this tod you mean like when we were in top half of the table in January during his first season? If you're going to bash someone, at least get your facts straight
Re: The penny pinching board appointing that idiot Hill have brought us to this tod Looking at the facts we were given a very low budget with a remit to stay in the division. Robins felt it couldn't be done so he didn't take up the challenge. Hill did and so did flicker. Both achieved it as well as generating money from sales to keep us solvent. Wilson hasn't. I have no love nor hate for any of the 4 managers but I can say I have enjoyed the football entertainment less over the last six months than I can remember. Fact is we have organised ourselves since 2011 as a league one club. Budget, facilities, players, sponsorship, etc. remains to be seen if our attendances will be top 5 and stay above 11k in L1. Only thing that hasn't changes is our ticket pricing. With the current model & budget playing back to the championship isn't something I either expect nor look forward to.
Re: The penny pinching board appointing that idiot Hill have brought us to this tod I think you need to separate out the two issues; the first being the clubs budget, if you consider the budget is too small to keep the club in the championship, then whoever is manager has little effect. The second being the choice of manager, as icer mentioned Hill and Flitcroft kept the club in the championship. In the event that Flitcroft had been left in charge we would have probably been relegated, but we have been with Wilson in charge but then consider the budget. The further issue is the current financial strategy the correct one for the long term future of the club. IMHO yes because the club can not spend money it does not have as this is the route to annihilation.
Re: The penny pinching board appointing that idiot Hill have brought us to this tod ...............people soon forget After Robins was sacked there was an article in the Chronicle by Don Rowing (or Pat Cryne?) that said Barnsley is not a club that brings in loads of loan players - it is a club that develops players from the lower leagues. So Keith Hill and David Flitcroft were only following orders from Don and Pat when they brought in lower league players. Both of these managers are good managers..........if given funds to compete in the Championship then both managers would have been a success. Hill again showing what he can do at Rochdale and that's because he is spending money at that club that is on an equal par with other clubs in that division. At Barnsley he wasn't able to compete in the market..........which resulted in him saying "Barnsley are shopping at Aldi". New owners with a bit more money to spend and Hillcroft would have had us near the top of the Championship - I've no doubt about that.
That means fuc.k all, he was the worst manager in BFC'S history and the sooner people on here stop w.anking over him the better
Hill would've done a good job if he was given the backing Flitcroft got. Flitcroft is to blame if anyone or even the board for not getting proper contracts for Vaz Te & Butterfield sorted so that Hill could replace them when they went.
The penny pinching board appointing that idiot Hill have brought us to this tod Hill wasn't a bad manager, any club that loses their 3 best midfielders in January and has no funds to replace them will always struggle, he tried to get replacements with the budget he was given, but they didn't work out unfortunately
Hill and Flitcroft kept us in this league. I was for sacking both much earlier but we didn't replace them with a manager any better.
Agree with those 2 points and that the club has been going slowly backwards since Robins left but it wasn't all bad under Hill/Flitcroft. The first half of the 11/12 season and the second half of the 12/13 season was great to watch. In the past 8 years in this league we've never had one good season all the way through, even under Robins we kept finishing the season without a win in the last 10 games.
Keith is from Bolton. Not Manchester. After four games we were on four points. Didn't look out of his depth to me at that point. I don't believe the lower league recruitment was scatter gun in nature. He identified players he thought would help us, and to be fair, we stayed up using them under him and then Flicker. It was Keith's higher league signings that struggled in the main. Mark Robins has no reason to piss himself. Mark's got his own issues. He's got the budget he always wanted here, but at Huddersfield, and they've made no progress with many of their supporters ripping him to shreds. The lower league and 'inherited dross' theory I disagree with. Our better players this year have been Steele, Cranie, Jennings, COG, O'Brien and perhaps later M'Voto and Lawrence. I wouldn't describe them as lower league, or dross. In fact, this season we've had a team full of players you'd expect to be deemed 'Championship' quality. They've contributed to this relegation as much as the likes of Perkins, Wiseman et al.