A recent quote from everybody's favourite manager..

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  1. Whi

    Whitey Guest

    “I realise I’ve struck on to something special with this group of players and it’s a case of seeing how far we can go,” said Hill, who first guided Rochdale into League One in 2010, an achievement for which he was awarded the LMA League Two manager of the year.
    “I know we’ll have to add one or two and it’d be great if I could retain someone like Jack O’Connell in League One.
    “But I’m a happy person again. I think Sir Alex Ferguson has talked about this, that you have to have a measure of control and power as a manager in a football club as, if you don’t, you end up being a fall guy.
    “I don’t want to be anybody’s fall guy and I believe I’ve got something uniquely special at Rochdale, where I retain enough control and power to make an impact and I do believe we will be successful.”



    http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.u...ckburn_Rovers_boss_one_of_managers_of_season/
     
  2. Bri

    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    No axe to grind from me.He's done a great job there,well done to him and his squad.
     
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    cant stand the *****
     
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    redarmychris Well-Known Member

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    Hills a good manager. He has a clear philosophy and sticks to it. Think they'll do well next year.

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    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    I'll second that

    ............given a bit more spending power; Hill would probably have been our best manager in my lifetime

    He only had one fault.........he agreed to build a Championship side on a shoestring - it didn't work because you need that extra bit of quality in the Championship
     
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    I agree with him... to a certain extent. But you have to earn the right to have that control and power. Alex Ferguson arrived at Man Utd with a great reputation having won three Scottish titles, 4 Scottish Cups and the UEFA Cup, not with Celtic or Rangers, but with Aberbloodydeen. Even then, the Man Utd board didn't pop a blank cheque book in his pocket and let him do what the hell he wanted. He was monitored, allowed to develop and over time given more and more control and power.

    Keith Hill, as much as he likes to think otherwise, is no Alex Ferguson. He arrived at Barnsley having managed only one previous club and achieved just one promotion. He'd done well at Rochdale, without doubt, but he still had everything to prove. Lots of managers do well in the lower leagues but fail to make the step up. For us to give Keith Hill the power and control he thinks he's due would have been madness. He had to prove himself, but he failed to do that.

    He's gone back to Rochdale and done very well again in League 2. He's clearly a good manager in that division. If he wants to progress, he'll have to show he's capable of the same in a higher league. But if he wants to be afforded the same status as Alex Ferguson, when he joins a bigger club he'll have to accept that he won't be given complete control from the off. He'll have to earn that privilege and demonstrate his worth. Not that he has to move on, there's nothing wrong with being a good manager at a small club. In fact, there's something very good about it.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Aye, if you were born in June 2011 and died December 2012.
     
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    He’s a dick and I can't help but feel that what he is saying is that success at Rochdale is down to him because he has full control but he didn't here so failure wasn't his fault. Utter crap, the reason why we are playing them next season is largely down to him.
     
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    No its not. Its down to Flicker and Danny.
     
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    They aren't blameless, far from it, but Hill has to take his share of the blame too.
     
  11. Whi

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    Nonsense.

    I take it we credit him for staying up last season as well then?


    He failed here, certainly in terms of results. But you can't be blaming him for a relegation season that he had nothing to do with. I know he's hated by many on here and I understand that, but come on.
     
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    So can he also take credit for keeping us up last season too?
     
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    I blame Hill in part for relegation he created a negative culture of failure.


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    Which Flicker completely turned on its head. I'm embarrassed for people who feel the need to blame Hill for our relegation. We've had 3 other men in charge since him.
     
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    No.


    The rot certainly gathered momentum under him, I think a lot of what he did paved the way for our demise and no I think had we kept Hill we would have gone down last season. This is nothing to do with hating him, I just feel he is an arrogant tw@t who felt that he was forged in the image of Brian Clough. If his footballing nous was anywhere near as big as his ego or his mouth we might be playing Leeds next season rather than Bradford.
     
  16. Whi

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    This ^^


    There's a lot of things you can dig Hill out for, if that's your want. But to stretch reality like this is making folk look bloody silly. Keith Hill has nothing to do with this seasons relegation. Nothing. Except for developing the lad Flicker sold for £3M, which formed his budget for this relegation season.
     
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    Three? You can't count Mellon surely?

    He should take his blame for leaving a squad of utter *****.
     
  18. Whi

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    The rot started when the board at the time undervalued the quality players he'd developed and moulded into a top half team. The rot continued when those players weren't here anymore, and he got £50,000 to spend the following Summer. Keith then failed to re-mould the side into something even resembling half decent, he made mistake after mistake, stuck to his stubborn beliefs, and was rightly dismissed.

    There wasn't a hint of negativity last Summer. Far from it.

    I'm not blaming any one individual for our demise this past season. If I was, Keith wouldn't be in my thoughts. Last season, had we dropped, then yes. But we've had two and a half managers since.
     
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    I have counted Mellon.
     
  20. Whi

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    He left Golbourne, Dagnall, Davies, Stones. About £4m made on them. Utter *****?
     

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