Leon Brittan

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  1. mrx

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    what you been hiding Leon - you greasy piece of £"$%
     
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    Good Swansea midfielder
     
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    Well, when you hand the investigation over to someone who is actually implicated in the investigation what do you think would happen? Some senior QCs, senior politicians and senior coppers are all involved, hence investigations have been quashed over the years. In fact, I'd wager there's a lot of people that are happy that Jimmy Savile popped his clogs, because I think who and what he knew prevented the authorities from looking too closely.

    Just have a little scout around the internet. Admittedly, there are conspiracy websites aplenty, but the same names keep cropping up, as do the same rumours, which sites outside the UK are happier to report on. A certain UK pop megastar, for example, crops up on the leaked list of guests at Elm House (along with Cyril Smith and a few others who have since been convicted of child abuse...and some who as yet haven't), he is rumoured to have previously been arrested on similar charges to Jonathan King decades ago, but the case was hushed up, he apparently has a high court injunction taken out against all the media in the UK preventing them from linking his name to the Elm House inquiry (apparently all the papers have the piece ready to run when he is eventually named), he was interviewed repeatedly about the death of his friend Jill Dando (rumours are she was about to expose the BBC/Westminster paedo ring/cover up) and coincidentally is 73, the same age as the as yet unnamed person arrested as part of the Yewtree operation.

    There's much more than this knocking about on that person alone. Some of it will be conspiracy theories, but there is so much out there about the same things and the same people that you have to imagine some of it must be close to the truth. If any of it is true then I hope the whole lot is blown right apart, but if the Westminster/Met Police cover up part is true, and it is looking very much like it is, the implications are going to be massive. Just what the f*ck was going on in the days before minorities were allowed a voice. It is scary. The poor kids who got dragged in and out of those childrens homes at the whim of the rich and famous's perversions. It's absolutely scandalous.
     
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    Cliff Richard is 73
    Obviously not him.
     
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    Without seeking to typecast and and besmirch all the characters who generally populate certain professions, it does seem that those who seek to bask in the public limelight also have a greater propensity to go on to abuse their "status".

    Or do a similar proportion of the rest of the population have the capacity to so abuse but lack the opportunity?

    I think not.

    Politicians are a dodgy lot though, he said besmirchingly.
     
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    Child abuse comes in many formats, but institutionalised child abuse like this requires the input of influential people.

    It seems that some of the ones who have been exposed recently have hid in plain sight though. Jimmy Savile, all his charity work, his kids shows, repeatedly saying in interviews that he hates kids, friends of royalty and Prime Ministers. Rolf Harris recorded an information film about child abuse in the 80s. Some may use their devotion to religion to hide it (Jeysus, the catholic church is built on it!). If you read some of the stuff on the internet, there are suggestions that some of the perpetrators took high positions in certain charities, helplines and so forth (even setting up some of them) and used their position to quash things as they were exposed. Honestly, the more you read about things like this the more shocking it becomes. As I say, if only 10% of it all is true it doesn't bear thinking about.

    As I type, there's a programme about the Queen on the TV and she's welcoming an ex-PM for dinner. One who apparently was arrested for importuning young boys in a public urinal, but again this was hushed up. It just goes on.

    I've come across some pretty horrible people in my working life, working in the NHS, recruitment in London and in the City. Some of these, company owners, City directors, etc, are pretty unpleasant people and I have tales of all kinds of debauchery (thankfully falls short of paedophilia, but still some pretty unsavoury stuff). So just imagine what nasty sorts can get away with when they hold positions of real power or have fame behind them. I really shouldn't get shocked any more, particularly as a paediatric nurse, having done courses in identifying child abuse and coming across many awful cases in my days as a paediatric A&E nurse, but I really am disgusted by all this. We think the cover ups over Orgreave and Hillsborough were bad enough, but this is appalling.
     
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    Kitty by any chance ???
     
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    Ive been following this for a while

    there's a thread somewhere quite a while ago where I chucked Leons name into the ring. The timing is an interesting one, being that he's guilt and the cover up might implicate the current Foreign Secretary, lets see how it pans out.
     
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    Here kitty kitty
     
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    Until I clicked the link I really thought it was all about the Swansea midfielder!!!
     
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    This probably goes much higher than Government covering its arse. We're probably looking at MI5 and blackmail. The Elmtree Guesthouse list is as follows. This was allegedly written out by one of the owners, who died in 1994 after an "insulin overdose". Not all of the people on the list are being accused of child abuse - some of them were there for the homosexual side of things...

    Even that is probably only the tip of one iceberg. Look into the Kincora child abuse scandal in Northern Ireland. Lots of politicians probably under the thumb of MI5 and doing their bidding on the premise of "If you dont, we'll reveal you're a paedophile." Then there's Ted Heath, who was friends with Jimmy Saville and liked a spot of sailing round the Isle of Wight by all accounts. Not to mention all the boys homes which seemed to be used as places where the upper class procured their boys from. And members of the Royal family who had close contacts with convicted paedohpiles in the USA.

    It's a long way down the rabbit hole.....
     
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    If that is true that is huge, massive.

    Lots of people in high office, now and recently have known, covered up or otherwise turned a blind eye to some disgusting truths about their colleagues.
     
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    A motley crew of c.nts. Especially Colin Jordan - what a c.nts c.nt.

    In fact - a c.nting c.nts c.nt.
     
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    They say life imitates art, and all this reminds me of the Red Riding series of feature-length dramas which was on Channel 4 a couple of years ago, based on David Peace's novels (Incidentally a great watch if you haven't seen; portrays a startlingly authentic 1970s/80s Yorkshire with some top performances from quality actors).

    The trilogy is basically about the attempts of three different men to uncover the corruption and collusive dealings of a collection of powerful Yorkshiremen, policeman, businessmen, the media and the clergy. It transpires that these men worked together to protect a shady business deal (a proposed shopping centre) and in doing so cover up the indiscretions of their business partners to cover their own backs and protect their investment. Running through the centre of this is a paedophile ring, instrumental in which is the construction magnate who is the figurehead of the development, thus child abductions and murders go unresolved as high ranking policemen sabotage investigations from within to ensure the magnate is exempt from suspicion and their money is safe.

    The fact that the narrative contains so many references to real-life events (the Yorkshire Ripper is covered, the shopping centre is clearly supposed to be the White Rose, and other factual scandals are touched upon) together with the time period it's set in, does make you wonder whether this sort of corruption really was widespread enough to seep into the public psyche like this and, whether directly or indirectly, influence Peace's work.
     
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    It's also a good way of getting round libel laws.
     
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    This makes for interesting reading. The generalities of this were reported on at the time, and that Sarah Ferguson borrowed a large sum of money from him. I cant vouch for its accuracy - but it's another one of those down the rabbit hole pieces....




     
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    The books are brilliant, like a dark Yorkshire poetry of pain, depravity and collusion. The tv shows were great to, although I imaigine if you hadn't read the books they'd be difficult to follow and I don't know why they condensed four books in to three tv shows which affected the narrative a bit.

    His novel GB84 about the miners strike is also brilliant.
     
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    John Mann MP is on this - heard him on R4 last night saying that it goes to the heart of The Establishment
     
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    Probably, i think there's alot of people who know things that are most likely true, but can't prove them to be and so keep their mouths shut. But once the edifice begins to crumble it might all give way.

    The problem is that 'The Establishment' know that their powers rest on some of these things not being disclosed. They worry that once the mask slips, they wont be seen the same way - which they wont.
     

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