Football died tonight

It's the end of the beautiful game

 

Nah that happened in July 1982 when the brilliant Brazilians lost to Italy. This was just a poor side who ran out of luck.

 

Was just about to.post the same

A very sad evening,.it will never be the same again

 

No it didn't...........it moved from a team and country that just thought that they had it by right of birth.........to a team that lost 1-5 and then went about putting it right

The result today started when they lost 1-5

England take note

 

Been dining out on long gone reputation for the past 4 WCs ... vastly over hyped

 

Can't recall the last time Brazil played like Brazil. It's all been whining, diving, moaning, cheating, kicking, elbowing and gamesmanship for years. They haven't been a great side for a long time. Good individuals (Ronaldo, Ronaldinho etc) but nothing to rival the great teams they've had.

That German side played some good stuff and were ruthless. England could learn a lot.

 

Or it was taken to the next level by a well trained german team who, even as Juninho said, played great football. Give credit where its due ffs. This set of brazilians are a cheating, diving, moaning set of overpaid prima donnas

 

Complete and utter ******.

It died years ago when the moneymen stole; The People's Game.

 

I thought it was one of the best performances from an international team that I've seen in years. After being bored rigid by Spain's dominance, watching them take a fortnight to get from one end of the pitch to the other, last night I saw a team who could pass just as accurately, but do it at pace, taking them from the edge of their own area to an effort on goal in 4 superb passes and less than 10 seconds. Football was reborn, played at the same pace as I'm used to in the English leagues but with the skill of the best passers of the ball in the world. Scintillating stuff.

Spain were a brilliant side, but their style of football bored me daft. And it had an adverse effect on my enjoyment of the domestic game as many teams, including Barnsley, adopted the slow, patient build-up approach. If there's owt worse than watching your team pass the ball 20 times in their own half only to lose it and the opposition score then I haven't seen it. It was a regular occurrence under Keith Hill. We even signed a handbrake to slow us down further. Football's journey men trying to play the technical game of Spain. **** me on a stick.

I want to see Barnsley attempt to play like Germany did last night. That's how we played the last time Danny Wilson was our manager. Win the ball, pass, pass, pass, shoot. Win the ball, pass, pass, pass, cross. The opposition are at their most vulnerable when they have committed men forward. The quicker you can attack them after winning back the ball, the more likely you are to score. Not a long ball game, fast, incisive, accurate passing in an attempt to get an effort in on goal as quickly as possible. Allow a team to get back and they're hard to break down, hit them fast and hard and opportunities will open up.

There's no reason that Brazil can't play that way. They have the potential to play it better than any other team. They produce some extremely skilful individuals who, given time, should be able to adapt to any style of play. Stop diving about and rolling around on the floor, stop looking for fouls all the time, put together a disciplined defence, not one who think it's their job to win the game, it's their job to prevent them losing it, and allow the creative players to attack the opposition with speed and skill. It should be a joy to watch.

 

Truth be told - Brazil weren't one of the four best sides in this tournament, they got some very favourable decisions along the way, and the hype got destroyed last night.

 

Exactly my thoughts. Football is reborn, in a style that's actually a pleasure to watch. People just can't see past the white shirts and the red, yellow and black flag - probably because they've been brainwashed by anti-German TV commentaries for the last 30 years.

 

Keith Hill currently holidaying in Bavaria.

 

Only for those of a certain age harking back to the days of Pele. The side we saw last night are the latest in a line of Brazilian teams that were ordinary at best. Perhaps the fault of the Brazilian game is that their better players ply their trade in Europe, I know at one time Brazil would play 'home' friendlies in Europe to save their players from having to travel. They need to reconnect with the favelas.

What we saw last night might just have been the way for the England team and game to progress. World Class players plying their trade in their own league in the main. Too many, at best ordinary, foreign players in the Premier League on good money which is matched by our home grown players who aren't world class who, like the Brazilians, are remote from the what is the heartbeat of the game namely the ordinary man in the street who can no longer afford to go watch Premier League football.

 

Absolute nonsense. It's the complete opposite - a bunch of overrated players, trading on the reputation of their colleagues from thirty-odd years ago and wayyy too reliant on one decent defender and one Beckham-esque poster-boy finally got found out. They have been really, really poor throughout. How they got to a World Cup semi-final is a mystery. Well, perhaps not - the referee in their quarter-final certainly helped. It took a hard-working, incredibly well organised side, playing positive, pacy football to show them up for what they are, and good riddance. Hopefully the final will be a proper game of football, rather than the pre-ordained procession to the trophy that everyone in Brazil expected.

End of the beautiful game?? I'd call it the rebirth...

 

It certainly doesn't harm the Germans that 6 of the starting line-up all play for Bayern Munich (arguably the best club side in the world). The majority of the team play together week in, week out and have the kind of understanding that just isn't possible for other national sides.

 

I'm guilty of that too. Not of any of the proper nasty anti-German stuff, but I can't remember ever wanting to see a German team win before. They're the old enemy. Not in a war sense, in a football sense, the b.stards knocked us out of Italia '90 on pens and 24 years on that still hurts. Losing on penalties means nowt now, but that one was the first and will always hurt the most. They did it again at Euro 96. In our own country! When we all still loved the national team. Seaman and Shearer and Gazza were playing for us for Christ sake. It wasn't supposed to happen. Unforgivable. Kuntz scored. Course he did. And to make matters worse, they don't give a monkeys about us.

But I don't know how anyone could fail to be impressed with how Germany played last night. Brazil were poor, yes, but they were made to look poor by a dazzling display of football "Anyone would have beaten Brazil last night." No they wouldn't

 

Not sure that "most teams would have beaten Brazil" last night. Many would have lost before they'd even set foot on the pitch, they would have been overawed by the crowd, atmosphere and occasion.
Brazil also started like a house on fire, first 5 mins or so you wondered if Germany would get many forays outside their own half, easy to forget that now given the final score but Germany first had to weather that.
England would probably have been behind in that first 5 mins.
Also not many teams would have continued pushing - they'd have shut up shop at 3 or 4.
Look at the anger and disappointment on the German players when they conceded in the last minute - that showed the professionalism, that showed a team that will rarely give up a lead late in a game because they are that disciplined to not want to concede when they are 7 up.

 

Totally agree!

 

Complete contrast to the German side that couldn`t string two passes together in first 45 mins against Algeria.

Brazil must be crap though cos even Ozil looked to have a decent game, he still missed what should have been their 8th at the time.

 

Ozil was the worst German on the field. Their only Premier League representative.