I actually thinkthe club aredoing ok

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  1. bal

    baldtyke Active Member

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    Hi All, been a while.

    Looking at where we have been and where we are. I think the way BFC are looking at moving forward is the best thing for the club and business in general.

    We have had a poor set of players, loanees galore and no real plan in place going forward. Now we have bombed almost all of the deadwood out of the door. We have made clear statements that young hungry players are top of our list.

    Also it has been said that we are going to build from within and give the young lads at least a chance to see if they can step up. This may provide a string of saleable assets for the future.

    So all in all the plan is in place and with Danny in charge I think it will work out in the long term.

    I know we haven't seen the rolling door yet but I feel sure that a team that can well compete will be in place for Crawley and it may be hard for a while. Overall I think once they settle we will have a good season.

    There needed to be a real change of emphasis and it is now apparent that it is going to happen.

    We need to get behind Danny and anyone wearing the red shirt and give them the time to develop.

    It's hard I know but keep the faith, Danny didnt build a successful team overnight last time so we have to use this season as the platform building season and get ready for a big push either back end of this one or next.

    Sorry to be a boring fart but I really do think they have got it right and we do need to stand behind them

    Football is an entertainment business and we have had sod all of that for a while so lets give em chance to bring it back. Show faith and back em all.

    Right am off for a beer, enjoy your night peeps

    BT
     
  2. sam

    sambora Active Member

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    Glad your off because all of the above is ********
     
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    I completely agree. The youngsters will need time and I hope the fans will give them that time. The deadwood has gone and it seems like the club is buying sensibly not just buying whoever is available.

    After all the misery last season, I'm looking forward to this season :D
     
  4. bal

    baldtyke Active Member

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    ok point out the ********. The above is my opinion

    Do me the courtesy of countering the stuff you don't agree with by giving more than the above is ********.

    Forums are about debate

    Or is this one an exception

    BT
     
  5. Jay

    Jay Well-Known Member

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    Difficult to judge just yet. We needed to do 3 things this summer:

    1 - Clear out the dead wood.
    2 - Get the high earners off the books.
    3 - Sign some good, young, hungry players that want success and want to do it for Barnsley. And maybe a couple of old heads to help guide them too.

    Parts 1 and 2 of the grand plan are complete, but the difficult part and the part that really matters is getting the new players in. We're nowhere with that at the moment. There is time, but we're cutting it fine. Don't think we'll be able to judge how well we're doing as a club until recruitment is complete and we get to see the new players. I'm not expecting miracles this year, success or failure will not depend on promotion, although we'd all like to see that. But we have to see some potential, a team willing to work for one another, capable of showing some skill and providing some entertainment.
     
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    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    Stages 1 and 2 re done though a little later than us comfortable but recruitment which is always the hardest bit has really begun so too hard to tell really. I'd settle for a season playing entertaining football and not being dragged into the relegation scrap. Get a team together then kick on next season.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    People won't be surprised to read that I think the club are doing badly.

    In the club's own words we were told they were going to "recruit early" and that's why they wanted your money before 30th April. There were no amendments to this statement. They did not say they would recruit early dependent on getting players x,y and z off the wage bill. The statement stood alone. It's now eighteen days to the start of the season. The club can only be seen to have failed in achieving this objective.

    We were going to be very competitive. I'd say we've made one potentially good signing and two complete gambles. The window is still open so hopefully(!) more players are still to arrive but as it stands we have not been competitive at all. Fail so far.

    We were supposed to be getting more value for money, signing younger players on longer contracts, developing them and hopefully making a bit of a profit. We then sign Kane Hemmings on a one year contract and our next rumoured, (and I stress the word rumoured), signing is a loanee from Burnley.

    Things may change but as it stands the club are not really achieving what they claimed they would do. People might say we have cleared the dead wood but this was never one of the club's claimed objectives. In actual fact we actually offered new contracts to some of the dead wood and were more eager to get rid of the better players.
     
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    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    The clubs rotten to the core, and I don't know if we have the right people pushing the pens to get us back on track, only time will tell, no amount of debate will change that
     
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    Johnny the tyke Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree... I was starting to think that everyone was short sighted and suffering with depression... So much negativity posted this past week...

    Think of the bigger picture... Last seasons Deadwood + overpaid average players = relegation to L1 with big wage bill

    If we do nothing, we stick with the same deadwood and overpaid average players... giving us a finicial problem and IMHO mid table obscurity.

    ok then consider... Sales of Deadwood + overpaid avg players - salaries = transfer fund and reduced wages bill

    Alot of teams are in the same position as us with barebones of a squad just two weeks away from season... but unlike previous years, DW now has money in the bank for both transfer fees and players wages... In theory he should now be able go for his top transfer targets without worry of financial risk...
    In previous years I feel we have carried to much quantity (deadwood/avg) in the squad, this creates a vicious circle and prevents managers from having funds to bring in quality... therefore they have to settle for second best (more average deadwood)

    Targets.
    Goalkeeper
    Right Back
    Right Mid
    Centre Mid
    Striker

    DW has good scouting network and has already signed two highly rated young players who should make an immediate impact in L1. I am convinced others will follow later this week.

    Always the optomist... as the above posters, I am looking forward to the new season and seeing new faces... Much better than last seasons efforts on all fronts
     
  11. Marc

    Marc Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    genuine question. why do you spend so much money on something you dislike so much? as far as i can see, you spend a shed load of time and money going to all games, home and away. which is brilliant. yet there is possibly no one who attacks the club as much as you do. i just don't get it. life is short pal, spend your precious time & money doing something that makes you happy.
     
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    Can't disagree with much of that except we need a left back and 2 forwards and at least 1 winger and there are clearly targets like Mackay-Stephen who we will struggle to get.
     
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    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    Wile at the match supporting the team all is well for 90 minutes, all that matters is the football and the people I'm with, walking out if the stadium having watched another load of ***** reality kicks in and I start to see the club for what it is, right up until the day before the next match when the buzz kicks in, I really do wish that buzz would wear off but it never dose, going out for the day with my mates to different places each week is what gives me the most enjoyment, supporting the team comes second, and the football third, but I hate the club and the way it's run
     
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    fair enough. if the team and football come second and third, i wouldn't worry too much about it or how it's run. concentrate on all the good stuff and don't sweat the rest. you'll thank me for it!
     
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    Could not agree with you more pal!
     
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    But in reality you have no idea how the club is actually run. As supporters we only get a glimpse of what goes on behind the scenes.
     
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    NIGHTMARE Banned Idiot

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    Yeah I do we've got a Bellend in charge of the everyday running of the club
     
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    Top post, few signings in the next 2 week then bring on Crawley!


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  19. Oakweller

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    Could not agree more with the top post.

    The new approch of targeting young, local and hungrey players is a breath of fresh air, the problem with it is that it will take time to build such a squad and it will take time for those young players to gel and develop. Its a 3 year plan according to Wilson and year 1 will be a difficult transition, mostly for the fans than anyone else. If everyone supports this plan and lowers their expectations for year 1 then hopefully we can get to year 2 with the same manager and players and that is when I believe we will start to see results.

    At this moment in time it does not look great and I think the club have messed up some what, possibly expecting it to be easyer to sign players and underestimating the effects of this 60% wage cap, but despite that I fully support the club from top to bottom, we all make mistakes and with the type of players we are after, those who are young with potential, its no surprise that they are in demand and are difficult to sign.

    I don't ever remember us having a period where we gave a manager 3 years to build, gel and develop a young team. It's something new and untried. We spent 8 years in the championship and got nowhere so its time for a new approach. I believe this is the real way to develop a club, not spending lots of money on quick fixes, but putting together a group of players, keeping the core of them at the club for 3 seasons, working hard in training every day and over 3 years seeing that hard work pay off.
     
  20. Farnham_Red

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    Well you are right there.

    That said I can see your point of view - and I can also see the alternative view made by the OP.

    I genuinely dont know how we will do - its clear we need to sign some more players but as Jay says above we have now definitely done steps 1 and 2 so there should be no barriers to now doing part 3.

    Strangely last season when we were all really happy with the way the summer had gone - Flitcroft signed up all the players who did so well the second half of the season kept etc I had a nagging worry that things wouldnt go as well as we all expected.

    For some reason this season - barely 11 players to pick from - pre season results not encouraging I actually have a better feeling I think we will do OK - not expecting to be top 6 at Christmas but dont think we will be in the bottom 6 either.

    Remember last time we were in this league we kept the players that took us down and but for the last gasp Rankin goal would have gone down again - Admin and get shut of a load of players - Gudgon came in and cobbled together a team that did OK
     

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