Alan Brazil

He has a point

 

Do you not think people who commit suicide realise what they are leaving behind? You know that people will be upset but your mind tells you that they are upset anyway because of you so at least if you end it they will mourn for a while but eventually their grief will pass and they'll move on (not necessarily true but easy to convince yourself that it is).

 

I just don't understand why people are letting his comments cause such offense. He's voiced his opinion which he's entitled to, whether he's right or not.

I don't agree with him, but I'm not up in arms about it. The world is far too easy to offend these days.

 

I just think its something people do (admittedly in very dark times) to help themselves and any thoughts of how it will affect loved ones are thrown out the window. Obviously I've never been in such a state, but thats my views on it.

 

I have been very close to such a state and I would say the opposite is true. You feel like a drain on your loved ones and you think that you not being there would genuinely make their life better, even when they deny it. You feel like you are ruining their life. You are generally in such a mess that you give very little care about what would make you happy and you feel like this is the only way you get to make other people's life better.

 

A lot of people who have a close family member commit suicide never get over it and a fair number go on to commit suicide themselves so he does have a point, however when you have severe depression you just want the pain to end and maybe you're not thinking of your family at that point.

Depression is a major killer.

 

Agree. My friend hung herself two years ago. The most beautiful and seemingly happy person. She just couldn't take life any more. Because she was ill. The brain is the part of the human that makes everything else work. If that goes wrong then sadly people can find themselves so ill that rational thought is impossible.

And I actually don't expect people to understand depression, so accept misinformed opinion. I still can't understand it fully. But I certainly don't think people do it for the easy way out.

 

I'd rather challenge your views and say they're way way way off the mark if its all the same

 

A very sad and accurate picture of an illness that when you need closeness the most you feel at your most distant.

 

Except you admit yourself, you've never been there. Listen then to people who have and who are telling you you're wrong.

 

But the people who have been there have openly admitted they were wrong, the families didnt want them to do it, and I think deep down, they would know that at the time too.

 

It's reassuring that people with these views are in the diminishing minority. 20 years ago we'd be awash with the whole "selfish" argument and what's more you'd have to shout very loud to put the opposite view. Now it's the other way round.

 

You've just proven the problem with severe depression and defeated your own argument in the process.

 

Alan 'tired and emotional' Brazil?

I'm not sure he'll be on this Earth much longer either. He looks like a human meatball, marinaded in meths.

 

Of course when you get better you realise you're wrong and your family didn't want you to do it. We're not saying it's correct, just that's how you feel. I think you are wrong that deep down you know it too, there's nothing rational about your thoughts when suffering from depression.

 

There does seem to be a belief amongst the population that depression is just feeling a bit fed up, as most people experience quite often, when in reality it's an unexplained feeling of helplessness that just grinds a person down. I still think suicide is fairly rare amongst people who suffer depression (given how many people have received treatment at some point in their lives) but if you know much about it then you can understand how it can result in a person no longer wanting to live. Someone very very close to me unfortunately chose this "way out" of the illness a long time ago.

 

For those of you that dont understand ..watch this video ..it might help you have a better understanding ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCrniLQGYc