War Criminal calls for More War...

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  1. Redstar

    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    Tony Blair claims that IS (The Terror Group formerly know as ISIS and still funded by Saudi Arabia) can only defeated by using Ground Troops

    I take it you will be first in the queue you ****ing lunatic?
     
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    He created ISIS, so he should know.The *****.
     
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    Interesting debate Red. What's the right thing to do here? Diplomatic process is very obviously not going to work.
     
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    So you're basically advocating killing all the non-whites then ? Racist.
     
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    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    Marc just can't help himself. Just like Tony
     
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    It is a very difficult one. One option would be to pressurise the cash rich Arab countries to actually take the lead on this but seeing as they have us over a barrel ( ho ho) it makes this difficult.

    I am convinced though that more troops getting killed is not the right way forward
     
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    You little tinker
     
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    A nuke with a large enough yield to kill everything within the borders of ISIS. Obviously we would have to wait until the wind was blowing away from Turkey otherwise it might spoil the holidays of a few Brits.
     
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    I thought our nuclear arsenal was supposed to deter this kind of behaviour, not deterring anything is it really, drop a small yield one over one of their strongholds and see if they get the message
     
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    You are with Tony then?
     
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    To be honest mate I know it's a lot more complicated, we've effectively armed a lot of these groups to fight other common enemies, they also seem to originate from Saudi who I'm pretty sure most of the West is friendly with.

    Doesn't make sense to me at all. Can't we just leave them to it? In trying to police the world, the US and UK have just made it worse.
     
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    Totally opposed to any air strikes, unless they can guarantee no civilian casualties. Which kinda leaves you with ground troops, and that means more of our soldiers will die. Tough one
     
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    I suppose the thinking is air strikes might actually save lives in the long run if ISIS numbers can be depleted and other people are deterred from joining.

    Not that I agree with treating people as numbers, some of the ISIS videos are shocking, and this is them killing other Muslims, they don't even seem to have that much of an agenda against the West, yet
     
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    I read something about this the other week. Apparently ISIS are selling oil to groups in Syria, in return for weapons. However, both ISIS and the Syrian groups are also fighting each other as well as trading with each other.
     
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    Bonkers!
     
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    Got a feeling it's all about to kick off big time now the Turk's have negotiated the release of their 49 hostages.

    The US will be able to use their land for planes & weapons like they've done in the past.
     
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    I'm no fan of Blair by any stretch of the imagination but yo call him a war criminal is disgraceful.

    Should we have stood back and let incoent men women and children of Iraq suffer persecution


    If that's the case we may as well not even bothered taking on the Germans

    Probably the only thing Blair actually got right where Cameron is the criminal for standing back and not helping the innocent Syrians
     
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    For most people in Iraq, their lives would probably have been better under a repressive dictatorship than under "democratic freedom". We went in, did half a job then sat back and waited for it all to collapse like it has done.
     
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    Exactly a job Cameron should have finished off
     
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    The issue was that the war was a pretext for getting control of Iraq's oil. Well when I say control I mean control on behalf of numerous multi-national corporations. Iraq should be a rich country in a similar vein to Saudi Arabia. It isn't because the oil is now controlled by foreign interests. Then to make matters worse, Iraq was charged for reconstruction work which led to the escalating debt of the nation.

    I lay the accusation of war criminal is based upon the fact that the context for war has since been proven to be a complete and utter fabrication. If the war had been based upon humanitarian reasons it may have been more justified. It wasn't and this only came later. In any case that would then mean applying the same criteria to all situations....que the invasion of Saudi Arabia and Qatar

    Where do you draw the line in "finishing the job?"

    The Syrian situation has proven very complex. Blair was calling for the arming of Syrian "rebels" last year. The same rebels are now forming parts of IS....
     

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