why is no one laying the blame at the Crynes

The Crynes are the only constant in the last terrible few years at Oakwell and Cryne snr admitted in a recent interview that Cryne Junior was identifying the players the club were signing using some statistical method he'd cooked up.
Barnsley FC has become a rich families toy and now the dad's a bit bored with it like some old train set it's been given to the son to have a play with.
We keep sacking managers and getting nowhere
I know that this isn't the popular opinion on here but I think the problem isn't wilson it's the Cryne families running of the club that is at the heart of our demise and the fans that keep turning on the managers keeps giving them a human shield to hide behind.
We have at some point got to give a manager the room to manage the team without calling for there sacking after every bad run because the calibre of manager applying for the job ain't going to get any better the way we go through them. Danny Wilson deserves to get a bit more time and some of the anger needs redirecting towards the people at the top we have in my opinion got too little of the blame for the clubs demise. He may have saved the club in the past but he's made the big decisions that have led to our current position.

 

Fookin Hell I hope you have a bunker under your house

and a good many supplies to survive the verbal nukes you will now get.

 

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I know i'll get slated but just because he saved the club doesn't mean he should be immune from criticism he makes the big decisions he's hired and fired the managers and now his son is playing fifa 15 with a real club with his blessing.

 

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I was worried when I heard his son pulling some strings: reminds me of other clubs who employ from within rather than employ knowledge and experience

 

Yeah let's blame the bloke who let the Chosen Ones free to spend the money and choose the players, and then organise them.

Or not.

Their culpability lies only in who they chose.

Let's not for one minute thank him for spending his money on what we all dote on

 

Does anybody know what PC has actually SPENT on the club?

For instance, did he buy his share (with Barnsley Council) or did he raise a loan chargeable on the club's assets?

If it's a 'financed' purchase, is the land not still of an equivalent or greater value in alternative use?

Do we actually know whether he has put substantial sums in, over and above what the club has generated? (See John Stones sale).

PC himself downgraded the notion of 'ownership' (as opposed to custodianship) in his programme note recently.

Not knocking the bloke, but do we know what his input actually represents?

 

Yeah, but do we know?

 

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This is a ****ing good shout.

 

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Ever since cryne took over there have been whispers and claims from various managers that players have been identified and signed against their wishes or without their knowledge hasnt there?

 

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Cryne is striving to find an owner who could take us further...hell of a task.

But let's drive him out...then we'll have no club to worry about.

 

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Im striving to sell my house. Ive not actually bothered to advertise that its for sale or owt but once every 3 years I telll my mum that id consider selling it for the right price. No buggers made me an offer yet I cant think why.

 

I think the owner/board should be open to criticism. But I have to disagree on the stuff regarding James. His name was mentioned by Mansford once I think, regarding help to get a deal through (was it Winnall?). I think you've added little bits to it, unfairly. Not saying it's right that he's involved, but, this is Cryne's club. He owns it. His decisions. Which brings me back to my first point - he should be made accountable, face up to criticism. I've longed for some kind of Cryne statement for ages. The silence is deafening. All we here about him (or the family) is how committed they are etc, from Ben. He's hardly going to say any different is he?

So aye. Nowt wrong with questioning the ownership. But I'm not sure the fans have the stomach for what might happen were he ever to **** us off and sell us to the first interested party. Not got the stomach (most on here tonight) for a few poor results and being bottom four in September.

 

Cryne snr stated in his programme notes recently that Cryne jnr was actively involved with identifying players being signed using some statistical method Cryne junior has cooked up. So the football club we support is being used has a real life version of championship manager

 

Thanks for that. I didn't know about it. I don't buy the programme.

I still believe Danny'll have the final say on players signed. If not, then I agree that's bad.

 

This situation of club signing players for the manager been going on years, seem to recall blackwell walking out of a interveiw when shepherd told him weve got about 5 players lined up for you already to sign...blackwells answer was .....as far as i know, i identify the players i want, i then come to the board and say id like to sign him him or him for my team, if we can afford them you go and attempt to get them.
shepherd said thats not how it works here son.
blackwell at that point stood up and replied it does in my book and walked out .
makes you wonder if thats whats taking place again. I know for a fact it didnt happen with Mark Robins

 

In the case of Kevin Blackwell, I think that approach did us a favour!