Non-league Nigel on Ched Bundy..

Big Fecking Jean

 

To be fair; I know a couple of die-hard blunts who are going to send their STs back if he's re-signed and I don't think they'll be alone.

 

Utter moron but to be fair there were a couple of blunts that called football heaven yesterday who said chants like this from the braindead section of their fans would be unacceptable. What I dont get about pondlife like this guy is how this incident can be glorified!! Does he not have a sister, a girlfriend, a Mum.

 

It's an interesting point is that. People get all emotive (and rightly so) and say 'what if it was your daughter he'd done this to', well conversely 'what if it was your son who'd done it', wouldn't you want him to be able to get on with his life and not be pilloried for the rest of his days?

I honestly don't think he's a risk to society, you'd hope he'd never do anything like this again, that he'd learned his lesson. I certainly don't think he's a risk to children as seems to be suggested by some.

Not defending him, despicable act he did and he was rightly punished. And it's distasteful that he doesn't seem to have accepted his crime. Just think his rehabilitation into society is an interesting subject that obviously has loads of opinions thrown at it.

 

We just have to tread a little carefully here. A few United morons posting things like this and chanting that Evans can sh@g who he wants is pretty sick, but it's often more than a few Reds fans who sing a certain song about a red suspender.

 

Now we're getting to the crux of the matter.

 

Indeed. But that doesn't necessarily make him a risk to society.

 

A lot of paedos think that their actions are not a risk to society, I disagree.

 

Convicts should be allowed to work when they get out, no argument there. However there are certain jobs that, due to the nature of their offence, they should not be allowed to do. Your example of a physicist drink driving is entirely different as the offence is irrelevant to what he does in his day to day job. A more apt analogy would be a lawyer convicted of embezzlement. They would not be allowed to practise law again following their conviction, and rightly so.

Ched Evans is a footballer, and rightly or wrongly he is therefore a role model for thousands of kids. I do not believe a rapist should be reemployed in a job where he will be idolised and have thousands of fans singing his name, despite refusing to accept any responsibility or culpability for a horrible crime which he was convicted of beyond all reasonable doubt. Football has long been a "family" game, with parents taking children to watch matches. This ethos is slowly dying out in the age of Sky, and allowing a convicted rapist back onto the field whilst pretending nothing happened would be another nail in the coffin.

 

Where are you getting it from that he's a paedophile?

 

now I can see your point and agree with nearly all you say, the thing I'm NOT TO SURE about, I'm not saying I disagree I'm just not sure is the being allowed to play football, wasn't there a case a few years ago about 5/6/7. Newcastle players and a girl ?. if football is the only thing hes good at ( matter of opinion about the skill level) what do you allow him to do to integrate back into society, I don't know the answer myself, would it be different if the guy didn't play for our rivals, once again I don't know

 

I think all charges against the Newcastle players were dropped.

He has the same options as any mid 20s bloke - something manual, learn a trade, go to college/uni etc. It's not as if he can only either play football or go on the dole.

 

I see your point, but "like any mid 20's bloke", why put him on the dole when theres a perfectly good well paid job there for him ? but surely if hes welding an exhaust on a metro in a garage on manor top hes still going toget aren't you that ched the rapist bloke, can he play for his local on a sunday morning ? what about n.e. counties, semi-pro ? I don't know i.m just asking, then theres restriction of trade, does that effect his human rights ( people on here bleat enough about those), surely if people hold him up as a role model kids from that kind of family are on the wrong track anyway. if hes done his sentence, then hes done his sentence and finished, I don't profess to know any of the answers, all I'm saying is that its minefield and whatevers done its wrong to some people

 

I share the same opinion of those who sing that song as I do those who sing the Ched Evans song.

 

Football is the only job he's done so there is no way of knowing if he could do anything else but I do agree that he shouldn't be allowed to play football again due to the nature of his crime and the demographic of those involved in football. He should be allowed to work again but not in football so he would need to retrain in another profession and start a new career somewhere else.

 

Whatever we all think he should or shouldn't be allowed to do, fact is as it stands there is nothing to stop him continuing his football career, except the morals of the paymasters at the clubs. And it's Sheffield United we are talking about.

 

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The risk thing is crucial though. He doesn't admit his actions were wrong so if he found himself in the same situation what's to say he wouldn't act in the same way. If he made a public apology still denying that he committed rape but his actions were wrong and he unreservedly apologises to the girl and tells his supporters to leave her alone tgat would show remorse. Oldham said with Lee Hughes they wouldn't have employed him if he hadn't taken responsibility and shown remorse. Surely thats the right response