Same position at Christmas

How many people will still get behind Danny

I believe we can turn this around, but we have to sort the defence out

It's the first twenty minutes of yesterday's game that is keeping me positive


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If we are still around three points off rock bottom going into December I don't see him still being around. Plenty of us don't expect to go straight back up at first time of asking. But with our budget and the players he's brought in if we are still fighting down by the relegation zone towards the festive period I can see him being sacked. We can't risk back to back relegations.

 

Yes, because sorting us out takes longer than a year.

 

Honest question would you still back Danny if we got relegated

 

I would, but he'd get the sack. And I think he'll get the boot if we're struggling - ie bottom 4 or just above at Christmas.

 

We were relegated when he took over. What happened the year before was an absolute exception. Dynamo and Derren Brown combined wouldn't have saved us.

 

I agree

 

I know that's what he said, but the position we were in when he arrives gives context to 'his' relegation that season.

 

Yeah but we don't operate in a vacuum. To have got out of the relegation spots we'd have had to massively improve our form, and hope that improvement overtook 3 other clubs form for the remaining games. This 'spending spree' - firefighting to remedy the shambles he inherited. On an absolute hiding to nothing signing players on loan in the hope that they immediately gel and hit the ground running.

Wilson's been here just short of a year. We've been on a downward spiral since the day we go promoted at Cardiff. Only now does it look like we seem to be trying to look beyond 1 season in how we structure the squad. That will take longer than August- December.

 

Shouldn't be giving 2-0 leads away to anyone in that league. Personally I'd had enough of Wilson at 2-2. 2-3 was just totally unacceptable for me. We've been garbage since the day he came. Keep him until January cos that's the 'usual' thing to do, then get rid. I can't see what he's actually trying to do. Everything's so disjointed. We have no midfield.

 

Aye, at the head of the table carving the bird.

 

****ing bang on.

 

Totally understand the doubts/criticism, dissection of performances. I still think we'll be fine, but yep, some very worrying issues keep surfacing. Fitness definitely one of them. Square pegs in round holes. And the annual reliance on loanees. It's all very familiar, despite myself personally believing we were definitely (this time I believed it) going to do things differently this season.

Still clinging on to the belief that it's early days and things'll be fine in the long run. But I have to be honest, I don't think the club itself has the stomach for this patient rebuilding job, never mind the supporters. Otherwise we wouldn't have signed the likes of Lita and Treacy on decent coin and then loaned Ramage, Cole, Williams etc. It smacks of us trying to get back up as quickly as possible. Just as we used to do the same in an effort to scrape to survival in that division. So aye, I fully expect them to sack Danny if things continue in this very average manner. And we start again. Again.

I've seen a fair few Championship games/clubs now this season, and trust me, we'd get our arses handed to us embarrassingly. In possession, we're a lot better side than we've been in years. Exciting to watch at times. Out of possession, this is probably the worst 'team' I've seen in my time as a red. This won't improve quickly enough to satisfy many.

Another couple of huge/difficult games up next. Lose those and that stomach will be wretching.

Finding it a chore to come on here lately. So depressing. But losing 5 of the last 7 games, conceding goals for fun and a home record under Danny that's probably as bad as I've known, well, I'm finding it very difficult to put over an argument for faith etc. And me being faithful, still believing, that won't matter a jot if the majority have had enough, and, the end of the day we've an owner/board with less patience than even the biggest bedwetters that post on this forum.

I'm still enjoying the season, despite all the worries. But my hopes were lower than most folks. I'm the sort of fan that Conan Troutman hates. I support us in hope rather than expectation. I enjoy the matchdays, it's more than just 90 minutes to me. The away days are quality. Can't wait for the Blunts weekend after this. But from reading this forum, and twitter, many of you aren't feeling the same way.

Two wins in the next ten days and it'll all look better. Again.

You Reds.

 

Not if the players Danny has brought in are any good. Maybe our players are better than we've seen and it's the manager who's at fault. People always argue that a change in manager means a massive change in squad players. That doesn't have to be the case. Maybe someone out there could work with what looks like a strong squad on paper and do much better managing them with very little tinkering.

 

Re the loans things, what I've come to realise is that 20 years ago we would have perhaps signed some of the loan players, today that is impossible.