I notice not ONE reaction to Camerons stance about the £1.7 billion thing

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  1. Dragon Tyke

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    has been aired on here.


    Had it been the character from Wallace and Grommet.. or his cloned brother, then I am thinking a lot on here would be chanting their name... but no its that guy from the south who has stood up and told the ones in Europe who are milking us dry... NO ... ENOUGH. Well done Mr Cameron... its about time we grew some and told them to **** off.
     
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    You haven't looked very hard then
     
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    He'll pay up. He's all mouth and trousers.
     
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    Paraphrasing


    "I will not be paying it"

    "I have asked for an emergency meeting to discuss how they have arrived at these figures"

    Why the **** do you want a meeting when you have no intention of paying.

    Load of *****. We will end up paying probably half as a compromise. And he will use that as an excuse to hammer the same poor *******s that he has continuously hammered since gaining power.
     
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    Cos he hasn't got a leg to stand on
     
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    jeebus, the amount lost to the revenue by Call me Dave and his mates through tax loopholes, writing off debts of businesses who take tax officials out to dinner and dodgy legislation makes this £1.7billion look like loose change. They want to stop moaning, pay up and get their fingers out of the till - robbing *******s. if i duped my employer into paying my flipped mortgage i'd be in chokey before you could say 'allinittogethermyarse!!'

    never heard them moan when Britain got a rebate.
     
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    He never said he wouldnt pay , just he wouldnt pay by the deadline. all bluster.
     
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    What a fantastic example to set. "No I'm not paying my mortgage on time"' "but it's in your mortgage agreement", "sod that, I'm not paying".
    This is just to appease the UKIP morons. Surely we can act like a nation and not like spoiled kids. When I look at the likes of Merkel who has carried the EU for decades, I'm embarrassed. Stand up and cheer, you should be ashamed. We owe it, we pay it! That's national pride.
     
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    We were all waiting for your reaction.
     
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    Cameron sounded like a spoilt brat!

    "It's not fair, I'm not going to pay"

    I thought he was going to start crying!
     
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    The Treasury has known about this for months. Even Sky News picked this up last May:

    http://news.sky.com/story/1271385/drugs-and-prostitution-worth-10bn-annually

    It seems George Osborne knew about this earlier this week. Why he was kept in the dark about it when Sky knew about it in May I really don't know. He's either not not very well read OR couldn't care less. It begs the question though if Osborne knew about it earlier this week then how come Call Me Dave only got to know yesterday?

    As for Cameron's reaction anyone would think there was a Byelection coming up shortly. Oh hang on........

    His reaction yesterday was pathetic and rather than showing him up to be strong showed him up to be weak. If he really didn't know then he's either incompetent or has been sidelined by his own Number 2. If he did know and all yesterday's bluster was for effect and people are taken in by it then more fool them.

    BTW the Netherlands and Italy have received similar demands. Germany didn't because sex, drugs and perhaps rock 'n' roll are already included in their economic performance figures.
     
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    I'd pay it, but send it in one pence pieces just to annoy them.
     
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    At least he's making some noise (albeit coz its a vote winner now) Europe and immigration are becoming hot topics and far from anyone daring to mention these things for fear of being labelled a racist he has realised these topics are vote winners and UKIP and steaming in.
    Right Mr Cameron can you also apply the same methodology to those lovely banks, large corporate businesses etc who take the proverbial ............er no? No didn't think so.
     
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    I've no doubt that Cameron will pay, but how much does that equate to for each working person in this country? It's got to be several hundred pounds a piece
     
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    There's going to be a whip round at the match today!


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    tell them to get lost untill they sort out the problem in calais ....bit of a hell hole at the minute for us truck drivers ..
     
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    This.
     
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    If I'm to understand the situation correctly, and I could have got it completely wrong because I don't know a lot about this sort of stuff, we're being asked to pay more because our economy is picking up, while other countries in the EU, such as France for instance, will not be paying any more because their economy is still in a mess.

    There's two ways to look at this. The £1.7 billion is essentially a tax. I fully support the idea of taxing those who can afford to give and using that money to help the poor. It's the bedrock of our society as far as I'm concerned.

    However, even though our economy is picking up, we are not a rich country. We don't have a surplus, we have a deficit and that deficit is still growing. We have hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in this country in real poverty who rely on food banks. Things may be getting better, but they are far from good. We cannot afford to give and the people in our country are in no better position than those in France.

    I do not agree with the way the Tories have managed our economy since coming in to power. I do not agree with many of the severe austerity measures. However, they have at least tried to do something within our nation about the global financial crisis even if many of us believe they have targeted the wrong people. The Tories have essentially made a lot of us poorer. Wage caps in the public sector and job losses of reasonably well paid positions in the private sector, to be replaced by positions on much lower wages, has meant the ordinary working men and women of this country have paid for the financial crisis. It's not an approach I agree with in any way, but to be fair to the government it has had some success as the economy is now growing. Even if I detest the philosophy, I've got to acknowledge that the Tories attempted to tackle the situation and, on some terms, it can be considered successful. But we've suffered for that success. The majority of us have taken a hit in our own pocket and now we're being asked to pay again because it's our taxes that will be funding this payment to the EU.

    Meanwhile, other nations have not hit their population with such austerity measures, the people haven't suffered, there appears to have been little in the way of policy in an attempt to deal with the financial crisis. Business as usual, spend, spend, spend and bugger the consequences. These countries don't have to pay. We do, the money will no doubt go to the nations who have mismanaged their economy. Those of us who have tightened our belts, earned less and spent less will be giving money to those who have continued to live the high life.

    I don't like the Tory party. I don't hate David Cameron, but I have no fondness for him either. I agree with his stance on this though, even if he is pissing in the wind.
     
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    I don't think you have got that completely right I have a different understanding which may also be incorrect but my understanding is that the payments were based on the size of the economy so far hard to argue but some countries included the invisible items in the black economy for example Germany and some like us didn't. The EU has standardised the calculation so all are done in the same way. By that basis we under declared and were underpaying by around £180 million a year. They have backdated the calculation so we need to pay back what we should have paid.
    The government has known about this for months but has taken the classic ostrich approach and hoped it would go away. Now someone with an agenda has given the story to the press who have taken it as an open season story of attacking the EU and and really are playing right into UKIPS hands
    that UKIP that party that would like to give employers the powers they had in Victorian times before Unions existed

    The Tories have completely mishandled the issue and it has reared up and bitten them very hard only benefits UKIP unfortunately
     

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