Another Pub to close

In Penistone, Brittannia pub will be closing after this coming Xmas, the pub trade is knackered

 

I only even went in once and was near where I lived. Did the folk of springvale ever embrace it? Did it ever put anything on to get folk to walk the 20 minutes from the centre?

 

None of the above


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No Paul, nob head running it and a Wednesday fan too. Just bad when another boozer closes.

 

What looks a nice pub opening soon up here in Morley.

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The catchment area that the Britannia has is massive and nearly all families. It needs to try to go a bit ...actually, a lot more upmarket and try to attract the families at weekend, early evenings, etc, like the Spread Eagle is trying to do and then put on decent food to attract the locals later on. Then again, that costs a bit of money and the pub trade is too much of a gamble nowadays.

It's my local pub and I've never been in it cos I really don't like the look of it or the band of smokers that always seem to be on the steps. Me and the missus and a few friends had a rare night out round Penistone last week though and enjoyed it. Started in the White Hart, which I don't like but the women do, but it was handy for the curry house, then up to the Spread till closing and then into the Crown until some ungodly hour. I never thought it was going to shut.

 

Athersley Arms to close too I hear .

 

Doss holes are closing at a rapid rate, but nice warm and friendly pubs are thriving,

 

Very harsh...some great pubs have been closed, demolished or turned in to restaurants,but I would argue that a restaurant is a restaurant, and not a traditional pub. I would say very few pubs are thriving, some may appear to be, but so many of the public nowadays need to have entertainment provided. Sky, and turns... particularly bands demand a fee that is often far above their commercial worth, certainly as far as the traditional landlord is concerned. A band may be on, the pub may be full, but the band are walking away with the vast bulk of the profit. Pub companies can put things on, they have the ability to set money losing pubs against their big hitters to lighten the tax burden, but the traditional landlord is being seriously screwed....pubs may be doss holes as you say, the simple fact is, the poor landlord running it, is just surviving at well below the minimum wage.
As far as Wethersp**ns go, I applaud the fact that they have traditional beers in all their establishments,( I won't say Pubs !!) but the price they expect from a brewery is so low that the vast majority of Brewers do not deal with them.

 

Are they thriving as pubs though or as restaurants? Other than the town centre which is a different kettle of fish entirely, the majority of pubs around here that I know which are doing well are restaurants in all but name. They've got pub names, they look like pubs from the outside, if you went in when no one is there they'd look like pubs from the inside too, but go there during business hours and 90% of the tables are set up for having something to eat with only a small area around the bar given over to drinkers. The only pub I know outside the town centre surviving on serving beer instead of food is the Edmunds Arms, a cheap Sam Smiths pub. Other pubs in the area that are busy are full of people having summat to eat. If they don't provide that or the food they serve isn't very good, they tend to be empty for the majority of the week. It's the same when we go on holiday or off for the day. The traditional British pub is now a gastro pub.

I haven't necessarily got a problem with that (other than it can be a pain sometimes if all you want is a drink and there are no tables) I like going out for something to eat, I like the fact that there is so much quality in that area these days, but I'd be hard pressed to say pubs are thriving rather than restaurants are thriving.

 

bands = footballers.

 

I agree loads of breweries do deal with Wethersp**ns...but I believe I am right in saying the majority do not. The last time I had communication with them, the price they demanded was the lowest price any company had ever asked us for. It may be OK if you have overcapacity and are prepared to let beer go at a price you wouldn't sell to individual pubs...I fully understand, extra discounts are expected for high volumes, but I certainly don't feel comfortable in submitting to huge discounts for one, whilst delivering to a proper local nearby at a much higher rate. It's easy to buy into the big is best argument ( not that I'm suggesting that you personally are), but big combines are rarely good for the social fabric , and for me should be resisted.

 

Try the Royal at Baraugh Green. Tapas style food & a la carte. you can still go in for just a drink though - good beers as well... absolutely rammed.