The term 'racist'

Is it just me that thinks the word racist is used too freely and often these days?

After watching question time last nigh Nigel Farage was branded it on a few occasions when in all fairness I didn't see 1 thing he said wrong!! The panel was asked 'are we over crowded' when he gave his reply he got abuse....

I'm totally all for interaction and other nationalities coming to out country but not the 1's that rape, murder, steal, scrounge and come here beacayse there country is *****. If there was a million people at our borders who wànted to come here to work and forge a better life for themselves then I have no issue with that but to come here just because you can and in the knowing that they'll get looked after isn't right!!

Rissell Brand is just a prat who as a plum stick in his gob, if all he can go on about is high payed bankers and the super rich paying less tax then he's living in a ****ing bubble!!!

I've mates from various ethnic backgrounds who are good honest hard working people but the gaping hole that we gave created needs plugging sharpish.....it amazes me that probably 75% of people feel and know we have issues but when 1 man sticks his neck on the line and speaks out he is called a racist or in Russell Brands term.....a pound shop Enoch Powell

Deary me.......

 

To be fair pound shop Enoch Powell was both funny and true.

 

I don't care if people like Russell Brand or they don't. I used to think he was a dick, now I think he's alright. But the reason he speaks about the super rich and city bankers is because everyone has lost sight of why we're in the mess we're living through and have turned their blame to immigrants. People didn't lose their jobs because of immigration. People haven't had their pay frozen because of immigration. Cuts haven't been made to the NHS, schools and vital services because of immigration. The government didn't give away £billions to financial institutions because of immigration.

All this happened because city bankers gambled away your money - money in savings accounts, investment funds and pension pots - on toxic loans and they lost the ******* lot. The government paid it all back, with your money. The city bankers didn't lose their jobs, regular people did. The city bankers didn't take wage cuts (there has now been more money paid out in bankers' bonuses, not regular wages, bonuses, than the government paid out to prop up the industry) regular people did. Services that regular people rely on have been cut. Earlier this week a woman where my wife works suffered a severe allergic reaction to some new medication she was prescribed. My wife phoned for an ambulance, a paramedic turned up, but no ambulance because none were available. This, according to the paramedic, was now the norm. This hasn't happened because of immigration, this has happened because the city bankers lost the nation's money and they were then given it all back, leaving us with nowt. All that has gone on bonuses.

Russell Brand doesn't address the immigration issue because that is not the issue that needs addressing. What needs addressing is why we're really in this shitey mess, but no one will because all the main political parties work for the city and big business. That's who their friends are, that's who they grew up with and this is what you get when we're ruled over by a privately educated political elite instead of normal people who understand normal issues. They've shifted the blame from the bankers to the immigrants, played on people's fears and the majority have lapped it up.

Russell Brand may be a bit of a nob, but thank christ someone is keeping the real reason we're all ****** in the news because without him it could have been forgotten about completely.

 

Farage is daft

Clueless, but not racist. His problem is with EU freedom of movement. (Which btw is handy for the corporations as it keeps wages down) good old EU.

As for Brand, look at how the Mail/Sun etc attack him when he rails against big business and tax evasion. Ooh I wonder why ?

Maybe it's because big business is actually quite happy with avoiding tax and trampling over people, and it knows that Labour & the Tories in reality will not change a thing.

Oh and TTIP will obliterate any protections we have against corporations. See what Labour, Tories EU think to that.

 

The media is at fault for causing majority of the prejudice people have. They find the need to repeatedly state what a person's ethnicity or nationality is when they've done something wrong. When an English man is up for murder, the headline reads 'a man' when for example a polish man is up for murder, the headline reads 'Polish man'. His nationality has nothing to do with the crime he's committed. For every foreigner committing a crime in this country, there's hundreds who work hard and get their head down, same goes for us English.

 

And say a politician is late for a party and blames immigrants for causing delays on the M25 not motorists in general but immigrants you would provably hazard a guess he has problems with people of other nationalities...

 

Bravo Jay. Saves me typing a post on it as you've nailed it.

I'll just add a big well done to Russell Brand, keep up the good work, keep pushing that message.

 

Perfectly summed up, old mate.
'Like'

 

As the Chuckle Brothers would say.........oh dear..........oh dear oh dear !!!

Of course immigration is an issue because it has an affect on all aspects of the infra-structure

No one can talk about:

The NHS
The inability of people to drive around this country
State of the roads
State of our Schools
Number of Police officers

..............etc etc etc..................without first tackling immigration

UKIP have NEVER been against immigrants coming to this country..........THEY ARE AGAINST OPEN DOOR IMMIGRATION
Which is a totally different thing

Nigel Farage is married to a German FFS !!!

Russel Brand sees himself as a free thinker..........and yet when it comes to UKIP he just follows the trail set down by the Tory Press

 

Excellent post

Jay, I agree 100% with it.

Besides which, the overwhelming majority of immigrants work and contribute to our country with their taxes etc. There are plenty of home-grown scroungers and layabouts quite content to sit on their backsides while the rest of us support them.

On the subject of idigenous "British" people, What particular type of British are we all? Angles, Saxons, Normans, Vikings or Romans? I'm not at all sure.....

 

The term racist is used too often and these days and as seen last night it is the core reason why we cannot discuss immigration properly. It really annoys me and I'm sure I'm not alone but for some reason people have now become so scared of being labled racist that they have simply stopped giving opinions. In this respect we have the main reason why Farage is as popular as he is - like or hate him he isn't scared to say what a lot of people only think.

As for Brand, I don't particularly like him or dislike him but he does sometimes have some interesting stuff to say however this is lost by the ego and the rest of the ****** he spouts.

 

Couldn't disagree more.

 

He's saying what lots of us think.

Farage is saying what Nick Griffin said.

 

I see the Sun is trying to find the disabled chap that challenged Brand - here we go on the 'hypocrite' trail again. The fcuknuts

 

Yep.

If what he was saying was irrelevant and nonsensical, why are the gutter press so keen to paint a negative picture of him?

 

Re: Farage is daft

Agreed.
It's a genuine concern for working people and, along with the bankers and the govt's attitude to big business and the rich, is an important issue that needs addressing.

 

Cos he asks the wrong questions.

It'll dawn on folk, probably too late that the main political parties are actually driven by, and govern for the benefit of banks and corporations.

 

I don't think everyone who is concerned about the social impact of immigration is racist. Evidence is thin on the ground and genuine research in it's infancy. It's not racist to fear the unknown it's human.

At the same time if you blather on about the economic cost then that argument is clearly lost as all independent research points to immigrants being net contributors more likely to be in work less likely to claim benefits etc if you pursue this argument in the face of all evidence then I would have to say it is the ethnicity of those involved rather than a genuine argument.

Is Nigel Farage using immigration to deflect the blame for the economic crisis from the establishment and his rich mates? Of course he is and it's hard to believe that people are too dense to see it (not that the other mainstream parties are much better). Is Farage a racist? That's a complex question. The pound shop Enoch Powell analogy is probably a good one. The argument that he has a German wife so he can't be falls into the sone of my best friends are black/Asian school of nonsense its meaningless. He is an old fashioned elitist who would like to end all employment protections because it's stops him and his mates getting richer.

I will leave the last words to my dad who probably went to the Dave Whelan school of race relations. I watched QT with him last night. He saiid, of Farage "he pretends to be one of us but he's obviously one of them and if people are stupid enough to fall for it they deserve all they get".

 

Farage is a devious fcuker, no doubt. And his 'man in the pub' act is typified by his M4 comment. The problem is that his opponents find it easier to shout 'racist' at him, and the rest of the loons in UKIP than address the issues surrounding the EU that affect working people in all the EU states. In Farage's anti-EU campaign he's (imho) accidentally shone a light into an organisation that operates to the detriment of democracy and individuals in favour of banks, corporations and politicians self interest. It's better then to shut the debate down by pigeon holing the EU's opponents. Tony Benn had the EU sussed.