17 managers in 16 years.

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  1. Wat

    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    Eventually we'll get a good one, right? Well no. Because as we've shown we don't wait long enough to find out. A bad run, flirting with relegation, rebuilding a squad... They count for nothing because we sack them first. It worries me that we're either really unlucky and have picked lots of bad managers (all but two maybe?) or the club and fans have no stomach for sticking with a plan. Sack Wilson and in 6 months the next bloke will be out in his ear too. It's like Chairman Mao's permanent revolution.
     
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    1998 - 2014 = 17 managers. 1980 - 1998 = 6 managers
     
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    I'm firmly in the don't sack him club and we've had how many managers in how many years etc etc but what do you do when the performances are poor week after week? Folk don't mind if they're playing okay with a new squad and they can see the rebuilding process coming along nicely. Some of the worst performances seen for a while.
     
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    Well the answer is sack him. Obviously. ;)
     
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    What exactly is Wilson trying to rebuild us into and if he manages to do it would you be happy watching it ? His footballing philosophy is all wrong. What he's building isn't worth waiting for.
     
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    We shouldn't be afraid of giving a manager the boot if they prove to be incompetent - not everyone turns into Alex Ferguson (surely an outlier) given time.

    Some of the "17" deserved the sack and some shouldn't have been appointed in the first place. I'm prepared to give Danny a little longer but I fail to see what the long term plan actually is.
     
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    17 managers in 16 and 6 in the previous 18 says much about where we are and how football has changed.

    Im not sure I'd trust anyone to pick a good manager and if they did, that the fans would back them to show it if they weren't up to the job straight away.
     
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    Well that depends on whether you think someone else is going to do a better job with the same players. Given the run of managers we've sacked without success then the odds aren't great and you might be better off giving Danny Wilson a couple of seasons to sort it out. Football's a funny game.
     
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    Only four (and a half including this season) of those seasons have been in League 1. Championship you could argue we were always in danger of struggling to some extent, especially in the current money-bloated environment. We're now in League 1. Wilson brought in players that most clubs in this division could only dream of being able to afford/attract. For the most part they've been disappointing. We're setting up to draw away from home EVERY game. Not just at Swindon/MK Dons which is bad enough. EVERY game, and I know because I've been at all of them bar two. The only games we've comprehensively outplayed the opposition home or away this season have been Gillingham, Bradford and Orient. Most of our other games have been turgid at best and soul-destroying at worst (such as last night).

    I, like you, was in the camp of not wanting to see Wilson sacked because we'd done it so many times before. But since Christmas we have been utterly awful and are going nowhere under him. I wanted him to do well but he's had 3 transfer windows and brought in mainly dross, sets up negatively home and away, and the dull, long-ball style of play remains the same as it did when he first walked through the door for a second time. When fans such as myself and others on here, who travel up and down the country to watch us, are being turned by consistently bad performances and results, it's time for a change.

    I don't know exactly who we could get but I'd be aiming for a youngish manager like Graham Alexander, Gareth Ainsworth or A.N. Other doing well at a club we can poach him off. Someone dare I say it in the Keith Hill mould, but obviously not him. But Wilson, for me, has to go.
     
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    And how long do they get? 6 months?
     
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    17 managers in 16 years seems to be a format that works for us. Club to spend the most time in the second tier. Not bad. If we start this keeping managers for two three years we could soon find ourselves in the conference.
    We seem nicely positioned for a change now. Why alter a system that works in the long run. :)
     
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    Wilson's had 13 months. 9 since we were relegated. My main gripe isn't so much the results under him, it's the manner in which those results have come about. We go into games hoping to nick a goal from somewhere whilst hoping not to concede at the other end. There's no clear strategy other than hoping something goes right. I can't see how that's going to change while Wilson is here.
     
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    Perspective.
     
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    When an organisation is so short-term in its outlook and the man in charge (Danny) is constantly looking over his shoulder then there can't be a long term plan.
     
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    But that 17 managers has brought with it 2 trips to wembley, one to cardiff, a promotion, fa cup semi final, playoff finals and more so at times the changes have worked

    I think more of aproblem has been the constant loan signings meaning that the managers have never even really tried to build a squad. Wilson could be here ten years but if he keeps signing loan players for a couple of months we'll be in the same boat. Is pearson helping us long term? Waring?did cole trotta williams dudgeon and co help us build for the future? Every time over the last 10 years that we have shown any kind of promise its then been ripped out if the side when the loanees went back and we started again
     

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