For Christ sake Danny

The only possible reply I think

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Perfect summing up!

 

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Very good point about Hourihane. Remember back to earlier in the season when Conor was not just scoring goals and making them from corners or free kicks. He was actually picking out great passes FROM CENTRAL MIDFIELD. He alone seemed to have the speed of thought and skill to turn and pass to a forward running player and set up chances. That has disappeared from his game. Like everyone else I like seeing Scowen and Pearson in our team but maybe that alone has scuppered our leading goalscorer. I know he was going downhill before these two arrived but this one thing seems to have negated his impact altogether. He actually put a couple of tackles in yesterday but that's not his game.

Oh, and in case we forget, he set up our goal last night (again!)

 

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As he takes every penalty, corner and free kick it's inevitable that he's going to score and set up a few! Problem is, Most of his goals and assists came up to November. Since then he has been consistently off the boil. He's pretty much stopped shooting too, so it was a surprise to see him have a crack yesterday.

 

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I can keep defending him for a few reasons. Firstly, the criticism on here from a few users from the start has been ridiculous, unwarranted and unfair, and I, like a number of others, find it very easy to defend someone from unfair criticism. I also like the bloke, so that makes it easy too and then there's the history we have with him, which no one should need reminding of, but sometimes you have to. But the main reason is the football...

Earlier this season I thought we were playing great. Fast, expansive, pass and move football like we haven't seen for a long time. Trouble is, we were losing more often than we were winning and conceding bucket loads of goals. You get that from a young and inexperienced side. But I could see that Danny hadn't changed and he was still well capable of putting out a side that entertains and plays like you want them to play. However, we were in danger of footballing ourselves towards relegation. In the short term, something had to change, we had to become more difficult to beat and we had to become more solid because we needed points on the board. By doing so, we had to play a style of football less pleasing on the eye.

Has it worked? Away from home, obviously not, but at home we'd won the last 4 league games on the trot conceding just one goal before last night. I thought we played much better at home against the likes of Crewe and Notts County and Bristol City when we were peppering their goal all game, but we didn't win any of those matches. We'd started winning our home games under this new style of play.

I'm not going to start defending the system we played last night. For a start, I don't even know what it was. But that's not why we lost. We lost because Nyatanga, who I think has been excellent this season, headed a clearance down to their player at the edge of the box, who went on to score, instead of heading it out wide like he has done in every other game this season. We lost because, despite having the biggest back four we've ever had, plus a six foot four inch striker, we allowed a corner to find its way to a unmarked player at the back post to tap home. And we failed to create because Waring, who had dominated Oldham's defence and held the ball up at every opportunity, didn't have a very good game last night because he's young and inexperienced and therefore inconsistent. And I can defend all that because Wilson didn't ask Nyatanga to make a poor headed clearance, he didn't ask his players to leave someone free at the back post at corners and he didn't ask Waring to be far less effective than he was in his previous home game. Wilson picked his side with express instructions for all that not to happen. His tactics didn't help, but his players let him down, and in the case of the back four, his most experienced and better paid players.

We're not seeing the type of football Danny wants us to play at the moment. We're seeing the type of football that will get us enough points to make sure we'll still be playing in this league next season. Those predicting relegation will be well off the mark. Next season the players capable of playing the kind of football we saw earlier in the season will be one year older, they'll have experience of the division and they'll be in a much better position to play good football without conceding so many goals and without losing games. That great Norman Hunter side that won promotion in 80-81 and came within a victory over Norwich of winning back to back promotions and taking us to the 1st division, the team that beat first division Swansea, Brighton and Man City in the cup and drew at Anfield was actually put together by Alan Clarke during the 79-80 season. Joe Joyce was all over the place, Ian Banks was getting dogs abuse, Ronnie Glavin looked fat and unfit, Trevor Aylott would score a hattrick one week then disappear for game after game. We lost 3-0 at home to Sheff Wednesday. In the space of 3 days over Christmas we lost 3-0 at Grimsby and 7-0 at Reading. During the entire winter of December, January and February we won just twice. We finished the season 11th, thanks mainly to winning 4 of the last 6 games because we spent the majority of the season just above the relegation zone. But the players were, on the whole, a young side gaining experience which they used to devastating effect the following year


I'm patient enough to wait for the players we have now to gain the required experience and to then put the fast flowing football back in to action, so I'll keep defending Wilson. Or, as is happening much more often these days, I'll not use the BBS and leave those who want to call the manager names and call for his head all day every day to it. That's not aimed at you btw, but folk like you offering constructive criticism rather than reactionary ballacks are getting fewer and fewer because, like me, they just can't be arsed with it any more. If Red Rain and Whitey get bored of fighting the good fight this BBS really will be ****** because they're the only two who can be bothered to argue any more. Good on 'em, but they'll not do it forever.

 

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You really do p.ss me off when you write what I'm thinking. You b.stard.

 

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That's what you should be like me and think the opposite of everyone else. You don't have that problem then.

 

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I don't really post anymore, but i'm glad i still read occasionally as I get to read excellent, well thought out posts like yours. Its exactly how I feel about the situation and I could never have put it across as well as that. I have belief deep down that there is a long term plan and Danny is the man to deliver that over time. It might not have seemed that way last night, but for the reasons you have explained throughout this thread, i really do believe there is one and i am prepared to give them the time to deliver it. I've said privately that it could take a club like ours 3/4 years to change and develop the playing squad into contenders for promotion, and if that is the plan, i'm happy to sit and wait for it because i believe in Danny.

 

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I haven't quoted them (to save folk scrolling), but Loko's posts and Jay's from a couple of hours ago are some of the best I've ever read on here. Genuinely. Two sides to the same coin, no abuse, no wind ups, no name calling, just well typed out views containing two different ways of looking at our current predicament. Kudos to both of them.

Only thing I don't like about em? I agree with both. Or, I can see the merits in believing both. So it's a naughty one. As I said last night, I just don't ******* know anymore.

I was livid upon leaving the East Stand Upper last night (aye, second time in there this season, first time was opening day and a 1-0 defeat against Crawley). I'd been at a funeral in the afternoon, then the wake (alcohol) and borrowed a pals season ticket. I was on the train sharpish after full time, giving my thoughts on twitter. But my anger had subsided by then. I was in sarcastic mode, tried to see the funny side. It's only football I thought, be reight... Until I got home to the missus and listened to how bad Huddersfield were as well. I wish it was only football. But it's a lot more than that, for me anyway. And then she's ont phone trying to lift her boys spirits. It's that that makes it weird for me. I know they're paid handsomely, believe me, I see it every week just how 'other worldly' these lads have got it. But they're still just human beings. Not robots. I try to remember that when the voice inside my head is desperately trying to get me to call Jennings a fat waste of space.

I'm proper waffling aren't I?


I dunno anymore, I really don't. I'm hopeful of a result on Saturday and I look forward to coming back over a week later as we entertain (maybe) an upwardly mobile Crewe, a club I like, with a manager I like, like the manager we've got now, who I don't want removing (for clarity) even though I am finding it so bloody hard to defend him right now.


You Reds etc.

 

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Spot on sir

 

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Oh that was to prince of risboro's post btw.............spot on