Why didn't people offer the same support to previous managers?

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  1. Hud

    Huddersfield Red Well-Known Member

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    They were quickly to call for Flickers head when things weren't going well. All this about a long term plan It's complete poppy ****, football is all about results and Danny's results have been shocking.
     
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    Very true.
     
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    I think I was one of the few disgusted in Flickers sacking as well.

    4 months after gerrin us safe. Ritchie sacked abart 4 months into a season in a new division after promotion and now Danny if he cant get more than 6 months of a new season I don't hold out much hope for anyone taking the reigns.
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    Very True.

    Not just the results that have been poor but there have been some real Horror shows this season.

    Every Team has them but when they become as regular as what we have endured it becomes a problem.

    Hence today's decision
     
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    That is just not true !
    In every case there has been a minority of posters on here that become very vocal and it seems like there are lots wanting the manager out, when in reality it is just the same ones over and over again.
     
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    Spot on. Just that.
     
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    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    When results are poor the Manager, any Manager will be put under scrutiny and subject to criticism.

    Its the way of the world! www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4LEOALuUQo
     
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    To be fair both thee and me wanted the last two out, but the difference was that both had got us virtually relegated by the time they were sacked and neithers character appealed to us. Wheras, danny is midtable and has been hamstrung by winnalls injury and a proven championship goal scorer not steppin up to the mark. Im not sure who is making the decisions these days but theres far too much reliance on listenng to what the fans want on social media and not enough makin a decision and sticking with it.
     
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    i have no problem with the manager being held up to scrutiny, what i do have a problem with is the fact that some are going completely over the top , what the OP says is just wrong, but because he wanted Wilson to go he can only see the people that wanted Wilson to stay, he forgets about the ones that wanted Flitcroft to stay, that wanted Hill to stay, that wanted Robins to stay, that wanted Davey to stay etc etc etc !!
     
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    Convenient truth?
    I wasn't happy with Flicker's sacking.

    I think what you're witnessing is the momentum of people seeing the futility of sacking manager after manager.
     
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    I hated it every time either opened their mouths and I was glad when they went, but I wanted them to succeed because it meant the club would succeed but the only one i really really wanted out was Simon Davey, I hated that man, because of what he said to me when everyone else had walked away from where we were. Obnoxious Welsh tw at !!
     
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    Has there been an earthquake in Huddersfield and dislodged a few rocks.
     
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    It still makes me angry when I think about Flicker getting sacked - deserved so much more after what he achieved. The bond he formed with the fans should have kept him safe for longer. A hero in my eyes.

    Danny? Love the man, but he's been poor from day 1 (well, the third week) this time. Without his previous spell he wouldn't have any good-will at all.
     
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    What Madmark says above - Only Manager I have wanted sacked since we came out of Admin was Davey though patience was wearing with Hill and Hart at the time they went. All the others I would have given more time to- I genuinely thought that Danny was here at least until the summer unless we dropped into a proper relegation battle - 7 points away from playoffs or relegation spots is hardly that at this stage

    Something has to change - from 1973 to 1998 which includes our 2 most successful periods we had 8 managers in 25 years - and that's counting clarke twice. So an average manager lifetime was over 3 years
    from 1999 to today with little success we had 13 managers soon to be 14 in 16 years so an average manager lifetime is just over a year - especially as that doesnt include caretaker time- you cant build anything if you change your manager every season
     
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    I also think this isn't true. There was a vocal minority on here wanting the last two sacked, as was the case with Wilson, but there were no chants for the heads of any of the past three managers. I didn't like Hill because he was a nob, but I wanted him to shut his gob and get on with the job. However, over the last month he had clearly given up and lost the plot, which was very annoying. Because of this he was more or less taunting the board into sacking him. Flicker too seemed to be in a downward spiral, but there weren't many that wanted him to go.

    I think the only ones who are genuinely pleased at today's events are the ones who take pleasure in saying I told you so.
     
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    That's the point isn't it? A lot of us are sick of the constant sackings it's just daft. The 'plan' started under Flitcroft and I can understand that on reflection moving forward with a young inexperienced manager was not the greatest of ideas but at sone point you have to man up and say right this is what we are doing. We are too scared to do that.
     
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    Personally I think Danny has been afforded more patience because he's popular with supporters anyway, but also he's very experienced and was seen as Mr Right for BFC. Unlike most previous managers I got the impression a fair chunk of the fanbase really thought Wilson was the one to bring us out of the mire and that if anyone was likely to be the 'safe pair of hands' to over see the rebuild, Wilson and his 1000 games experience would be as good as anyone. So when things continued to go wrong, I along with a few people I know took the opinion that no one else would be a better fit than Wilson and hence he should be allowed to continue. I think it took the Fleetwood horror show to finally hit home that he was totally lost and would continue to struggle. There were very few Wilson Out chants, indeed I'd say there weren't any at all that actually got going. The desperation/hope that Wilson would be the man to get us going again delayed the mass calls for his removal. Even after Tuesday people seemed more concerned with the players than Danny himself. So I guess a combination of factors led to Danny being given more leeway with supporters, which in a way, makes it all the more sad that he couldn't find a winning formula.
     
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    That is so true. Its just a pity they didn't understand the old adage that bad news spreads faster than good news, people who are unhappy shout louder than those who are happy etc, and took a look instead at the poll on here in the last couple of days that showed that the majority were against getting rid of Wilson.
     
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    That's because there were very few people who wanted him out.
     
  20. Whi

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    Read the archive from the time Hill and Flicker were about to be sacked. The same (very same) posters on here now who've hounded Danny for weeks, were at it on those occasions too.

    I had a look earlier out of curiosity. Offspring is the most amusing. He wanted Keith out in February of 2012 and Flicker in bloody September 2013. :D
     

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