Interview with Danny in The Times

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  1. redarmychris

    redarmychris Well-Known Member

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    Our performances have been dreadful. Even the home wins were really poor to watch. The decision is a shame but it doesn't stink as Danny was underachieving massively. He failed to motivate players and as I keep saying wasn't implementing any sort of progression in our play what so ever.
     
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    And he weren't even given time to chop a tree down to make a canoe to give us a bit of a start.
     
  3. Marc

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    I'll remain convinced to the day I die, that the majority of this romanticism is because it's Danny Wilson. Every manager we've had, comes with the dream of building something. That's where this ******* word 'project' came from. I'm not saying we should or shouldn't have sacked him. Just that I don't see the decision much differently to any of the others. And they haven't had this level of outpour..
     
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    For a lot of us its more about finally realizing our club is in terminal decline and we have no other plan to change this apart from repeating the mistakes of the last 10 years.
     
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    Have you read your pm ? I know its got nowt to do with this thread like !!
    Oh and some people on here are still fecking crying about Keith fecking Hill, so that blows your theory about it just being because its Wilson !
     
  6. Whi

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    You're convinced? Did I come across like the sort to get all soppy and romantic over Danny when we did that walk? Have I not pulled him up on here, criticised him etc? I will gladly accept that yes, as I said in the blog I reckon I held my tongue now and again, because it was Danny in charge where previously I'd have been less forgiving. But I didn't want Flicker sacking either. I agreed that Keith had to go, but again I never called for it as such. I certainly didn't want Robins out on his ear either. I've got this stupid notion or idea of letting a manager build something over time. I thought that was the clubs strategy under Hill and certainly under Danny. The noises in the summer, and since, from Ben especially indicated as much. So aye, course I'm gutted that yet again we were misled by the club and they've gone and pulled the plug at the first sign (not even a clear sign) of trouble.

    The fact it was Danny gave me more faith in the plan. I've seen him build summat before, with this same club. I've seen him do admirably well at other similar sized clubs too.

    When we'd lost game after game under Keith, I couldn't keep defending him or the plan. And understood he probably had to go. And as much as I felt the sacking of Flicker was harsh and summat I'd not have done, again, we couldn't win for toffee. Understandable. But it's not been that bad this season at all. But then, different strokes for other folks etc.
     
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    But at least with Flicker and Hill you could see a plan. From his first game to his last I've failed to identify exactly what Danny was trying to do with the players brought in. Chopping and changing tactics, starting 11 and formations was getting us no where.
     
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    Our home form was quality? Results wise maybe, but the performances were utterly dire. We were lucky against Yeovil, as they were clearly better than us until they went down to 10 men, Port Vale and Oldham we scraped past in very poor games. I'm not one of those who thinks the result is far more important than the performance I'm afraid as I like to see some decent football. There have been glimpses of it but only in maybe 4 or 5 games this season. Plus Cole and Williams were loan players, not part of our building for the future philosophy...
     
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    I love how he was getting slated for sticking with this diamond formation & now apparently he was chopping and changing his tactics.

    Add in he was chopping and changing his starting eleven when actually, for the last month, 8 our of the eleven started all 5 games.
     
  10. Dr Zazlos

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    The Messiah has left the building and should never have been invited back in the 1st place.

    Clueless, inept, and brought some absolute Donkeys to the club.

    This board didn't sack him, the Club did cause the product is woefully Sub Standard and has shown little signs of improvement since his arrival.

    The only plan he had was to bump along each week hoping somehow things would eventually improve.

    Anyone but him would have bit the bullet well before now but not even the trusty shield of promotion to the Premier League could save him .

    We lost on Saturday but at least Mark Burton gave an honest , no holds barred interview, telling folk how it was instead of the Mind numbing Drivel Wilson constantly delivered.

    He has gone and will be remembered in high esteem, Rightly So I may add, for his achievements first time round.

    Second Time round really was Walking in Wilson Blunderland.
     
  11. Whi

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    Flicker had a plan? Wow.
     
  12. Whi

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    So if the next gaffer comes in and we play like Barca but lose every week you'll be happy?

    We had to use the loan market. Every club does. If you want Rosler, prepare for even more. He loves em.
     
  13. Whi

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    For a reds fan, you don't half talk the club and its legends down.

    Danny said the away form was ****. Dunno how honest you want it.

    You got what you'd been calling for all season. Lets see how long you give the next poor basterd.
     
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    Yes it kept us in the division.

    He lost his way in the end and he had to go.

    Danny has done no better than Flicker did in his first full season.
     
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    I wouldn't have sacked Flicker either, deserved longer after the achievements of the previous season, but what I've heard about him since suggests we're well shut. Would've been happy to keep Hill too if he hadn't got verbal diarrhoea. But Danny has appeared clueless from day one. It's all about opinions, mine differ from others in many respects, but the fall out he had with Perkins set the tone for me. He took him off in that FA Cup game against Coventry and replaced him with Jason Scotland. We never had another kick and lost 1-2. Perkins clearly had his say in the dressing room and was never seen again. Lots on here thought Perkins was poor, I disagree and we never replaced him last season with anyone better.
     
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    That's why I throw the word 'majority' in there. Can come out with any old $hite then :)
     
  17. Woo

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    Play like Barca and lose? Yep, that's gonna happen.
     
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    Speaking for myself, I'll dismiss the popular misconception that my unhappyness regarding DWs departure has 0% to do with nostalgia, history or sentiment.

    It was an appointment that I felt was the right direction the club should be taking

    Clear out the deadwood (Perkins, TK etc), sign a complete new team of young players making their way in the game that will either become future sales assets(way of the world) or be good acquisitions for us in the mid-long term. Some on here suggest this was never the case! I beg to differ. You don't sign majority young/inexperienced lads and expect instant success. DW has recently amassed 1000 games with a good/solid if not remarkable record. He fitted the bill regardless of his past connections.

    I was fully expectant of bucking the trend of recent seasons. Showing patience, building something, rebuilding supporter confidence. The dismissal, again IMHO has done nothing other than the opposite for the majority. Look, performances have on the whole not been the best. But with a brand new young inexperienced team were folk expecting rip roaring performances every week? We were 7 points from both relegation and the play offs. On the brink of breaking records. Yes, the recent away form is really poor. But no one was questioning it when we were performing well away early doors. A change of tactical tact from 'gung ho ' footy to a more disciplined approach dispells the DW had no plan B theory.

    I for one had faith. Was willing to be patient. Was willing to watch things develop. Looked forward to seeing things flourish. I was confident and appreciative of the clubs willingness to change tact and buck previous trends. Well I'm not going to see that now. Yes it might have failed, but I'm sure most of us didn't expect much more than a mid table finish this year.

    So to sum up, my ramblings aren't because DW had returned. No empathy from me. It could have been Butcher, Baker, ODriscoll or Mr. Candlestick-Maker in the hot seat from Dec2013. It was the new vision I was excited by. Not the owner of the ar5e in the hot seat.
     
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    It won't be long if the next guy serves up the same boring drivel.

    Life can be harsh especially as a footy manager but they get some decent brass for doing it.
     
  20. Woo

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    I don't see any reason why the rebuilding process can't continue. We've still got these players and the new manager can develop them too. Every club wants to develop youngsters but most see the need to have a balance. It was the style of play, the poor tactics and the general lack of any promise that got Wilson the sack.
     

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