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  1. SuperTyke

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    Whether other clubs announce fake attendences at matches or is it just usnwho lie about how many are in the ground?
     
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    The figures they release are including season ticket holders even if the dont attend

    So when we played Fleetwood over 500 season ticket holders didnt attend but still counted towards the attendance
     
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    Going back to when I did a bit of work with Wakefield Trinity years ago, season ticket holders were always included in the attendance regardless of whether they turned up or not.
     
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    Arsenal and Manchester United used to do it, read it a while back in the independent... something to do with around 4000 seats are reserved for sponsors and they include them in the attendance even when they are left empty.
     
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    It's standard practice. All sporting events do it. Attendances are based on tickets sold not actual attendance.
     
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    I would have thought that for security reasons an accurate number of people in the stadium should be provided.
     
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    So it isn't an attendance at all then. I wonder why people hosting sporting events are so bad at english
     
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    I would have thought this

    How do they account if they were a massive disaster
     
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    All clubs do it, it's a tax thing
     
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    Standard practice is ***** then. It also means we are misleading our fans when the the crowd gets announced and mentions "todays attendance". We should change the wording starting tomorrow so it's more truthful.
     
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    Agreed. Today's ticket sales is what they're actually saying to us, its not today's attendance at all.
     
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    I'm sure it used to be the opposite at Oakwell - there was certain games where I was convinced there was 16/17000 in the ground due to a large away following and then something ridiculous like 13000 would be announced and it was a case of where are these 10000 empty seats exactly?
     
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    They're allowed to flout safety for profits.can't see a Tory primeminister putting up with that
     
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    Let's be reight, what difference does it make if a few season ticket holders can't make it.?
    On a bad day maybe 5% don't bother which is about 400 - hardly a security risk is it?
    With pay on the gate, they don't know who's in the ground anyway but they now exactly how many people went through the turnstyles.
    If there were a massive disaster, they'd just do the ame as any other disaster - count the hospital cases and dead bodies.
    If a match or a concert is a sell-out and then a few don't turn up it's actually safer due to there being a bit more space.
     
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    And just how are they flouting safety?
     
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    Todays ticket sales... sounds very "business" to me , suprised we arent all over that already
     
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    Is it ?

    I'm not sure how that would work, overstating your income.
     
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    I presume they would just count the bodies.
    Why would security be an issue? If there are less people in the ground then there is less of a problem.
     
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    Few reasons really. One being if it were a fire and rescuers were risking their lives looking for someone who isn't there ..or not looking for someone because he's not registered as being there etc
     
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    Highly improbable in modern stadia. The Clubs are likely to count the numbers passing through the gates.
    If the ground was evacuated where would the assembly points be, who would count them, how would you get people to id themselves, how would you stop people drifting off home?
    As a trained Fire Marshal I'd say the task was very close to being impossible.
     
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