Proper question like, mainly at the antiDW contingent....

It's dependent on the tactics formation and style of play

 

(And other posts to be fair)

Here we go again.

The only folk who agreed with DW's sacking only post when we lose, aren't proper fans, are Sky TV generation, want instant success.

Well, no.

There was no signs of any kind of progress on the pitch. There was no indication of any input of improved tactics or formation. The only thing he did seem to achieve in the last three months was consistency - of performance if not always result (we did nick one or two). I think DW lost the will to fight. He never came across before as someone too stubborn to adapt. But in this tenure it got from bad to worse, and who knows, behind the scenes there could well have been other indicators to the decision makers that a change was needed.

I supported DWs team, like I did everyone before him and will do everyone to come. I'm a little under awed at LJs appointment - probably due to wanting Nigel Adkins, in part due to a personal experience with him, but as I've said elsewhere, that wasn't to be, the club chose Lee Johnson, he's here, get him backed.

 

I don't want to see us playing good football and losing, to my mind if that's happening then something is very wrong and I don't see how it can be called "good" football because there's bound to be someone who isn't doing their job if we're losing. It's a very glib reply to say "I just want us to play attractive football", which team in the whole of football plays attractive football and loses on a regular basis? If you think any such team exists then have a look on their forum, see how many fans are happy to be losing, have a guess on how long their manager will keep his job.

 

You sum up my thoughts better than I could. Great post

 

Up until Winnall was injured, we were playing good football and losing quite regularly. Notts County at home was the best example of that where we were fantastic in the first half, but there were other games where we played well and lost. As you predicted, there were plenty on here giving Wilson abuse and wanting him out. All the talk was of him being unable to organise a defence and failing to bring in an experienced midfield player. Wilson changed it, we shored up the defence, the results at home actually improved, but the quality of football suffered. No arguments from me there, the football was dour for the last couple of months, but Wilson had rectified what everyone had criticised him for earlier in the season. So, the criticism changed and now what people really wanted was attractive football.

It's all ballacks. There are a few on here that had a pathological dislike for Wilson and it wouldn't matter what he did, they'd still criticise. Others are different, they've done exactly the same to whichever manager we've had in charge and will continue with the next manager, and the one after, and the one after that...

They don't want attractive football or just winning football, they want us playing Galactico football, romping away with the division. Don't get me wrong, we all want that, but where as the majority realise we'll be lucky to see that from a couple of teams in our lifetime (and those old enough have seen it twice under Norman Hunter and Danny Wilson), the nay sayers will bairn on and on if they don't get it every week. They're a minority, but unfortunately they've set the tone of this forum for the last few years because they just won't shut the **** up.

I may be wrong, but it seems to me our board are influenced by them too, which is really sad. I haven't heard calls for our manager's head at Oakwell since that infamous defeat to Donny under Paul Hart when the atmosphere really was poisonous, yet we've dispensed with a further six managers since then. The directors of football clubs will always be influenced by supporters. You could argue that's the way it should be, it's our club, we pay the wages with our admission money, the directors should listen to us. But the Barnsley board have had no pressure from the Oakwell faithful to sack any of the last half dozen managers. On here it's different. On here it looks like we're all permanently disgruntled and are forever wanting a change of manager. It's not true, just about every poll we've ever had has been in favour of keeping the manager who was in charge at the time. However, those that are permanently unhappy make the most noise and repeat their grievances over and over again to the point where no one can be bothered to challenge them on the same subject for the 1000th time. A quick read of the BBS by someone at the lcub and it looks like the consensus is we want the manager out, the board feel the pressure that really isn't there, we put in a poor performance and pick up a bad result, like Fleetwood for example, the board panic and we've rid ourselves of another manager. Asked to justify the decision and the board can't really come up with a coherent answer. It makes no sense which is why they struggle when asked to analyse the decision.

 

With knobs on.

 

Well said, old mate.
'Like'.

 

As the stones sang (it's only rock and roll) but i like it like it yes i doooooo

 

Hitting the spot on the nail head. Take 2 to 3 repetitive posters out of the equation and it would have been just another bad run of away form.

 

To answer the question:
If results are patchy but the standard of football is fine then its a no brainer. We allow him time to develop his signings.

Yes I was Anti Wilson, nothing against the bloke on a personal level, but at the time various posters on this forum,myself included, said it was the wrong appointment and so it has proved. If the standard of football had been reasonable with signs of progress he would still be in charge now. Sure we had injuries but you cannot hide behind this using it as an excuse for the clueless displays folk have endured.

Any New appointment isn't guaranteed success. Its a gamble no matter who is placed in charge.

Lee Johnson certainly is not the man I would have liked but he is here, starts with a clean slate, and has my support.

Were long overdue a decent manager and I sincerely hope that he brings the feel good factor back to Oakwell.

If January next year is nearly finished and we are struggling near the bottom with rank bad displays then the recruitment process will begin all over again.

But it won't be like that will it?