these plans to restrict none EU players in Prem

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  1. Red

    Redz! Active Member

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    What's your thoughts?

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32024808


    "Only the best non-EU foreign players will be granted permission to play in England, with the process for dealing with appeals to be tightened."
    Who decides who "the best" are.

    suppose it will stop the middle road foreign players keeping the next Rooney or something from breaking into first teams
     
  2. RichK

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    Maybe some criteria will need to be met re caps for national teams?
     
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    Maybe Prem clubs, should get their own academies sorted and full of English lads. Not loads of foreign kids from all over.
     
  4. Jay

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    I'd back that. 10 caps for the national team a minimum, all occurring within the last 3 years. Or, if they're young, 10 under 21 caps.

    I'd like them to do the same with players from the EU, but I doubt the law would allow that. Conversely, I'm surprised the law allows so many non-EU players to receive work permits.
     
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    NO !!!

    I want the best players in the world playing in this country - not Spain, but England.
    Messi and Ronaldo should be playing in the Premiership

    If home grown lads are able to break into the Premiership when we have the best players in the world playing in there then these England players will:

    1) Learn from the best in the world

    2) Be at a similar level as the best in the world which will strengthen the England team - if an England player is good enough for the Premiership then he should be at a level that is good enough for an England place

    An added bonus of this is that we get to see players from countries where at one time we were frightened of - the Brazils and Argentina's of this world.
    Players like Oscar don't look that frightening these days.
     
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    They should restrict the amount of foreigners, regardless of being from the EU or not.
     
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    The 'next' Rooney? Theres going to be another Rooney?? Thats it! Im done with football!
     
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    The Premier League has got exactly what it deserves:
    1. English-born players who could be future internationals wasting away talent and motivation by not playing at top level, weakening the national team long-term - players like Bamford, Swift, Pearson - keep the list going - I think Chelsea alone have over twenty players out on loan to lower division teams.
    2. An apathetic and unexciting premier league competition in which even top-rated players regularly under-perform, including the likes of Falcao etc. Where are the days when, like Bradford City, other sides would not just roll over, or 'park the bus' against top-half teams? Turgid and lethargic!
    3. A competition in which refereeing has become, at times, almost impossible because of the amount of various forms of 'cheating,' including diving to gain penalties, free-kicks, or get a player sent off. Games are often determined by numbers left on the pitch, rather than being a genuine competition, in which players are not afraid to put in a hard, but fair challenge for fear of getting booked, or sent off.
    4. A competition in which some managers and players will defend their actions, even when they are clearly in the wrong.
    5. It is no good Greg Dyke saying what he is saying now. Only a reversal to a form of the national game which we know and love will fix it in the eyes of most fans and that should include some 'fairness' being allowed into the 'fair-play' rules.

    The FA have feathered their own nest. Shame, but hardly surprising that they cannot hatch and nurture more English 'chicks.'
     
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    The Best players in the world will still qualify its to stop average internationals coming that these have been introduced.
    Players must play at least 30% of matches in the last two years if their country is in the top 10, 45% if ranked between 11th and 20th, 60% between 21st and 30th and 75% if between 31st and 50th.

    So anyone playing 1/3 of Brazil games in the last 2 years would qualify. Its not perfect but it would mean that players in the top teams are not really affected
    We would struggle to sign some of the players Davey found though like Anderson Da Silva - shame and Miguel Mostto hurrah

    I dont see too much to be concerned about to be honest - much more supportive of this than I am the stupid idea of B teams playing us
     
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    What about a terrible player with 10 caps for a team in > 100th Position in the world rankings? You could just say in the top so many national teams, but then what about an amazing player that plays for a terrible national team... It just doesn't work.
     
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    The EIHL (top ice hockey league in the UK) restrict Non british trained players.
    Basically they have to be in the British junior system for at least 2 years before their 18 to be eligable to be classed as a Brit.
    The teams are allowed a certain amount of non British trained (Import) players. These are restricted depending on what leagues they have played in.

    Maybe something similar could be implemented?
     
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    Da Silva held Spanish passport/citizenship didn't he? So would he still be able to play for us under the new rules? Would Messi be a non eu player? He's Argentine but has lived his life in Spain.

    Also what about teams outside top 50?
     
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    Why would any English team want a terrible player?
     
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    The amount of caps is irrelevant. For instance, some international teams have 2 or 3 top goalkeepers, say Spain. Im not sure if De Gea has 10 caps? Whereas you could get some average kid from a country like Slovenia or Lithuania who has 80 caps because they dont have an abundance of talent.

    I strongly agree with the person who said we should be allowing the very best talent to play in England regardless of where they are from. If the young english lads are good enough, they will push through. It never stopped the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand, Terry etc did it? Its also of great benefit to us for them to be competing against the worlds very top talent week in, week out.


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    Why would any English club want to sign a really average player? Just because they would be allowed to do so under the system, doesn't mean they would.


    Of great benefit to who? Certainly not the English national side who have got worse and worse as more and more foreign players have come to play in our league.
     
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    Id put our failures at the hands of the FA for continually employing totally inept managers. Any half decent manager should have been getting us to Semi Finals minimum for the 2004,06,08 and 10 tournaments with the squads we had. Ive never bought into this concept that we dont produce the talent, all the top teams top players through the years have mainly been English.


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    "all the top teams top players through the years have mainly been English."

    Which top teams? In this country maybe. Even then I can only think of a few English players who were the star of a PL side.
     
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    We are talking about the PL so yes, obviously in this country. Lampard, Terry and Cole at Chelsea, Gerrard and Carragher at Liverpool, Rooney, Scholes and Carrick at United id say were all integral to their sides over the last 10 years.


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    Miguel Mostto.

    10 caps for Peru in the 4 years before coming to Barnsley.
     
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    Anyone who doesn't think the influx of very average players from abroad has adversely impacted our national team baffles me. Its good to try to attract top quality international talent not so good to have Brek Shea taking up space in your squad at the expense of young English lads. The England Team has got steadily worse in the Premiershit era due to the priorities of the chairman of the clubs and the desperate scrabble to stay on the money chain. It's sad that for some clubs they give up any chance of winning anything just to finish 14th in the Premiershit. Fill your team up with foreign players instead of developing your own it's quicker and easier.

    I don't think the change in rules will achieve anything the vastly rich will always be able to avoid any rules they don't agree with.

    The impact of the media in Britain has also helped foster this image of an underperforming team taking solid international players and trying to turn them into world beaters to turn attention away from systemic problems it the top of the football pyramid. Suddenly Terry, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney are world beaters rather than solid international players. The last Stella player we had was probably Gazza though occasionally Joe Hart comes close.

    We should also encourage or young talented players to travel more freely and play abroad more to play against the best in the world to learn different techniques and was to play. The best transfer for John Stones would be to Madrid or Bayern not Manchester.

    The Premiershit has been a disaster on many levels of the game this would be a small step forwards. Like many I don't care anymore about football other than Barnsley and can't even be arsed to watch an England team full of over hyped cheats and divers.
     

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