Arthur Scargill's house

Re: so you voted to strike 18 months before the event

thats because you watched the strike from afar,probably getting your info from the BBC and other organisations.Myself on the other hand was on strike for nearly 53 weeks and witnessed everything first hand.

 

Doduth

 

I was in the RAF at the time

stationed at RAF Gutersloh in Germany.

A lot of my family was in the mining industry at the time. I am not trying to pick a fight or take sides here, just wondered how a ballot 18 months prior was legal. Is there not a cut off point that requires a re-vote, that's all I am wondering Matey.

 

3 foot seams

 

If there was a Hillsborough style inquiry in to the illegal devious tactics that were employed by that evil Tory government then some ex movers and shakers would be looking forward to doing time even now.

 

Re: I was in the RAF at the time

the ballot was for pit closures on grounds other than exhaustion.My pit cortonwood was picked out a random by the government to close,them using the ill conceived argument that we were losing money.Two full faces of brand new face equipment are what pushed us into an operating loss for that financial year,other than that we were profitable.
The cut off points for ballots were brought in by the government to try and make the union as powerless as is possible,75% of miners stood by the original ballot,with the exceptions being notts and the midlands,these two prefering to believe the government that there was no closure hitlist.
Tory sympathisers have since tried to blame scargill for the closures which is absolute clap trap,the scab pits in the midlands were in the main anti scargill and their fate was still the same.

 

So you stood up

 

The only scab I have are on my knees after crawling the coal face. God I knew this would bring some stupid knee jerk reaction instead of intelligent discussion. But I suppose it always would. The problem is that some people would feel better in retrospect to think that a years strike was not for nothing, when in reality it obviously was. Let's talk football instead.

 

The conversation started off with a polite enquiry about someones residence. It kicked off when some pr..k decided to poke a stick into a wound that for a lot of people hasn't healed yet. Some people were affected more than others.

 

thankyou for that

understand now.

 

Agreed, I apologise, the subject will always be emotive. I'm a big pr..k for what I said. Let's move on.

 

Yes. Treeland's luxury cottage. Paid for by the miners a few months after the strike ended.

 

That's all I have to say to your post.

 

no mate,Scargill moved there at the back end of the eighties,he lived just across from the cutting edge in a bungalow on the hill going up towards bank end.

 

You know nothing

 

I think he moved in not much after the strike but I'm not sure on that.

 

Can i point out to anyone reading this thread and also Dubai tyke,Scargill did not call the strike,the miners at Cortonwood,Bulcliffe wood,Polmaise in Scotland and a pit in wales called the strike.These were the four pits plucked at random to face closure.
On friday the 2nd of march 1984 us a corton were told the pit was to close,this after men had just transferred from Elsecar and had been guaranteed five year minimum.We had a union meeting on Sunday the 4th where there was a unanimous decision to call strike action,it was also decided that we would lobby the Num headquaters in Barnsley to seek support from the rest of the yorkshire coalfield and ultimately the num on a national basis.On monday the 5th we went to barnsley,to find bulcliffe wood men there aswell,we asked for support and the area executive voted to approach members at other pits for support,this is where the motion from the previous ballot came into force,these were the first pits to be closed on uneconomic grounds since the said ballot.Scargill was not a barnsley on this day,the decision was made by jack taylor and if memory serves me right,peter heathfield and the rest of the yorks executive.
Scotland and wales did the same as us in that they had area union meetings and their respective pits came out in support.

As our respective areas came out in support we then went to areas like lancashire,notts,kent and the midlands to try and gain further support,all came out in support,more or less to a man except notts and some midlands pits.Its no coincidence that these areas at this time had recieved no threat of pit closures,the government and the coal board told them that there was no hit list and that union officials in areas like yorkshire,kents wales and scotland we making it up and lying.

I hope this clears up somewhat the myth that scargill started the strike and was spoiling for a fight.

 

He didn't need one

 

Great post

Just proves if you print stuff often enough it becomes fact even if it's complete *****

 

Not like you to post cack me old.