How many ex-miners would vote for Tories???

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  1. jud

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    Always interested me to find out how many ex-miners would vote for the tory party??

    Would the closure of the pits be too much to swallow or do some not give a toss and vote what they think is right?

    As a young-ish man it appears to me that if your from South Yorkshire you have to vote labour purely because of what happened in the strike!!
     
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    I would hazard a guess the answer is none, and while i can understand the reason's why ,i have always been unsure as to why labour have been afforded free rule over barnsley. You only have to walk through the town centre and some surrounding area's to realise that they have done very little to deserve so much backing from the local's. Unfortunately as there seem's to be no alternative 2nd party to vote for labour will always be a unchallenged barnsley council and nothing will change.
     
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    If I voted blue my Dad, and Grandad would probably disown me, and rightly so a horrible party who were prepared to put the whole industry on the streets. It's a case of never forgive for me.
     
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    Quite a few in Nottinghamshire ......Maggie said she'd look after them
     
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    Absolutely nothing to do with the tories would rather towns like ours didn't exist.
     
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    While I was working at the pit there were a few miners that voted Conservative - their argument being that we always got paid better under the Cons.

    Which was probably true - but it may have been that the Cons were paying us just to keep the NUM quiet.

    One thing to consider for those that never worked at the pit is that miners were force fed politics - that's why so many ex-miners now are interested in politics.

    A walk into the canteen or baths at any pit and you were faced with NUM posters and also there was always a pile of NUM newspapers available for you to read.

    It was a class war in those days - the NUM portraying us, the miners, fighting against the ruling classes.

    Consequently a large percentage of miners voted Labour.............and as a result Barnsley has become the forgotten town.

    a Labour Government doesn't need to bother with Barnsley because we will always vote Labour.

    A Conservative Government doesn't need to bother with Barnsley because they have no chance of winning the seat.

    The result of this is that the whole district is running 10 or more years behind the rest of the country........you only have to walk through any ex-pit towns (like Goldthorpe) or even the town centre to realise this.

    So NO..........you cant vote Conservative in Barnsley............and Barnsley will get nothing if you vote Labour.

    ...................there is only one vote that will stir how Westminster views Barnsley.............VOTE UKIP
     
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    Not just the miners strikes its what the Tories stand for as a whole.the labour party only ever existed to better the peoples lot, the Tories only ever divided people and set them against each other to exploit them. They glorify profit,the upper classes and don't believe in communities.
    Think about it! They have always fought the welfare system and the NHS, if they only wanted to stop benefit cheats they would look at the rogue landlords etc who are taking more out of the system than any rum claimant.
    There's loads of history as to what the Tory party have done to the lower classes just read up on it.
    Before the labour party we depended on charitable philanthropists and stories from the likes of Charles dickens.to move peoples consciences all fought against from the toryesque ruling class.
    Fekin n makes my blood boil when the so called working class vote them in.
    They use phrases such as I made it on my own I worked hard at school etc. Well it was the peoples struggle that created the climate to enable them to get there in the first place.
     
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    Fekin rubbish nudge.
    It was the fact that my forefathers were exploited in slave like conditions that got me and others interested in politics,the unions/labour party and any other body that took on the establishment to enable us to get involved in the first place.
     
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    Some people on here should stop living in the 1920s and start to think about the present day.

    We all know what the Labour Party did back then to fight for the rights of working people - but those days are gone and its what's happening right now and which party will benefit the country, the area you live in, and you as an individual.

    In my view the Labour Party is too wrapped up in those people that are very poor

    The Tories are too wrapped up in those people that have the entrepreneurial spirit

    Where does that leave the rest of us - that is to say, the majority of people in the middle ground - the people that are not poor but are not a high flying business person either - the people that go to work, pay taxes and have money to spend and a reasonable lifestyle

    In this election there doesn't seem to be anyone speaking to the vast majority of us in the middle.

    The nearest that comes close is UKIP
     
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    Yeah right there's no one these days that wants to exploit the workers .your living in cloud cuckoo land nudge but that's no surprise from a bloke working in an environment that was created with donations from the EU and now wants to pull the ladder up from others. The Tories left those areas to rot as a lesson to us all what they could do.

    Struggling a thing of the past? I don't think so
     
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    What is the population of Nottingham these days ?
     
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    Aye. And if ukip get in and you fall ill. Good luck with that.

    American style health insurance system.

    And I for one will leave the country. Having an incurable disease such as what I have got and you read what happens to them in the us. It's a case of people being bankrupt just to stay alive through no fault of their own.
     
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    You speak bigger ****** every time you post
     
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    Nudgers not bothered about that he's got where he is on the backs of workers struggles to provide a platform to better himself and now he's got there its fek you mate.

    That's a shi t house imo
     
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    The last Labour MP for the town was imprisoned for being on the fiddle while the rest of us had to cope with a recession. If you're thinking of voting Labour I urge you to vote Green instead. The country will be buggered either way but the Greens are promising £10 an hour so they have that going for them.
     
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    You got what you wanted with this post I guess, either that or you haven't a clue. Just one example for you,look at the vast number of amendments etc to employment laws, tribunals and anti-Union stuff that's Been brought in just under this last term of Govt. That speaks volumes about what the Tories and their backers think of ordinary folk.
     
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    Yes confirm the stereotype we are all foooking.............THICK
     
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    And he got duly punished, which is more than a lot of them did.
     
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    Absolute piffle. All those people you talk about are best served with a government who wishes to offer the best opportunities to ALL and also to ensure a safety net is there as we are all 3-6 months away from being homeless..

    But aye, vote for a bloke that considered you and those like you the enemy within

    What you fail to realise is that all the hard won victories of the working class, especially those won with the blood of the Second World War only exist if we keep fighting for their very existence....
     
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    Trying to provide a less emotive answer than others might - and I'm not a conservative voter - just someone who can engage without the red mist!

    In the two Barnsley constituencies 16% - around 6,200 voters voted conservative. I reckon quite a few more would if they weren't voting "not labour" i.e. tactically going liberal.

    In Penistone and Stocksbridge - well that's almost a marginal Tory seat anyway with 32% of the vote going the conservatives way.

    To say that none of these voters would be ex miners is unintelligent. (not you - but if anyone did)
     

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