Just another election statistic...please forgive me

In seven of the most marginal tory won seats, if a total of 901 electors had voted labor not tory, then the tories would not have had an overall majority

Gower maj 27
Derby North maj 41
Croydon Central maj 165
Vale of Clwyd maj 237
Bury North maj 378
Morley & Outwood maj 422
Plymouth Sutton & Devonport maj 523

Surely a compelling case for electoral reform?

 

let it go.....the country voted Cameron in....Labour were nowhere near winning and won't win again if they don't change tack

hth

 

Electoral reform is essential if we are to get govts the country wants and needs.
Although I am pro labour in the current voting system we have.

think it could change everything.
we have party's based on ideology and reward their backers everytime they are elected and punish the opposition supporters . this has got to stop for the sake of the country and to re establish political attitude.
The Tory's are by far the worst culprits for this has they have the born to rule establishment types in their ranks that need weeding out of our affairs forever.

 

Just goes to show Labour would have walked it with a charismatic leader; **** all to do with policies or any other ****** that was spouted.

 

Maybe if even Miliband had just avoided the bacon butty.

 

If you look at the % of the vote I'd say every single UKIP voter would have a compelling case for reform. Its never going to happen though.

 

What's all this about a bacon sandwich?

Did he try to eat it with a fork and knife?

I never caught the story.

 

look on the bright side, if 212 of those people had voted for Labour we would still have Ed Balls in government. Every cloud....

 

I'm sure you're joking Ian but here you go...

 

Cheers mate. No not joking. I was hearing all the comments but never knew the story.

 

Let it go. Proportional representation would still have given us a Tory government, just one in a coalition with UKIP.

Do you not remember the referendum for an alternative vote system? Or that we got a Labour government in 2005 with just 36% of the vote?

 

Don't have nightmares.

 

The nightmares started last Friday morning.

 

It's a compelling case to get out and vote and that it does matter.

 

Maybe my vote matters in a marginal constituency, but here in Barnsley it makes no difference to the overall outcome, being such a safe seat. Under FPTP, your location determines how important your vote is. It's an archic and unrepresentative system.

 

Actually no, because more people voting doesn't actually remove the chance that there would still be the above situations. You might get more votes on all sides and still end up with narrow majority rule. It also shows there needs to be a "None of the above" on ballots

 

You might do, but you might not. It could be that in a seat where the Tories have taken a narrow victory that there were more Labour voters who didn't bother. It might not make any difference, but it might. That's why it's important that you vote.

It's even important in safe seats. If every Labour voter in Barnsley took the view that Labour will get in anyway so there's little point voting then they wouldn't get in. They win the seat because people do make the effort to vote. You can't rely on the votes of other people to get the candidate you favour because there'll come a time when those other people are also relying on other people and not enough actually vote.

 

"let it go"
its not a football match where people are being bitter about losing 3 points its life and wellbeing of the country. So no, I will not let it go.

 

Labour supporters wouldn't have been asking for electoral reform if it was the other way around. Before voting everyone was well aware of what happens. Complaining afterwards due to not getting the result you wanted isn't going to make a difference.