I thought Hill was Flicker's best mate?

And yet Flicker seems to have dumped Jim McNulty on him. That doesn't sound very friendly!

 

Incest by any other name.

 

Don't you find it strange that they both sign the same players over and over again? Understandable if they are the star players. If Wilson wants to get back in to management and takes control of a League 1 club, you can bet he'd love to sign Winnall and Hourihane. Not sure he'd be after Lita and Treacy again though.

Hill and Flicker don't appear to be so discerning. Doesn't matter how poorly a player has performed for them in the past, they'll have him back if they can get him. Last season Tom Kennedy left Barnsley, where he'd been signed by Hill (but ignored) and played by Flicker, to join Keith Hill's Rochdale. Not getting much game time at Rochdale, he was signed on loan by Flicker at Bury. Blackpool then realised there was another ex-Barnsley player up for grabs, so made a move for him before realising he's ****, only for Keith Hill to take him back to Rochdale. Poor lad's been playing musical ******* chairs.

 

An impartial observer, a stranger to the ways of modern football business could possibly conclude that there's some reason other than pure performance on the pitch ?

I dunno.

 

An impartial observer may do just that.

Like you, I have no idea.

 

It always amazes me how managers re-sign players who played a part in their demise at their previous clubs. Lazy management in my opinion .... 'oh I see Jim McNulty's up for grabs again, I'll take him on again, that will save me trotting around the country looking at other centre backs'

 

Do they all use the same agent I wonder. Signing on fee roundabout.

 

My theory is that Hill/Flicker phone up one of their (very average) 'trusted' players. Let them know roundabout the maximum financial deal the owner will be willing to give. Then convince the owner that this 'trusted' player is worth at least a 2 year deal. The player and owner strike a decent deal and Hill/Flicker then take a backhander from the player out of their signing fee, basic wage or appearance fee.

Basically they promise their mates a 2 year deal for a backhander in return. I wouldn't put it past them.

 

Would we feel the same if Johnson signed players from Oldham.

 

If average players were regularly been given 2 year deals then LJ would have some explaining to do yes.

 

Really hope he is as average as Matt Done.

 

I liked McNulty.

 

Are you saying Matt Done isn't an average footballer?

 

Good job you not talking about Blackpool here as some strong suggestions in this public thread.

 

Common knowledge that lots of the players signed by Keith and Flicker over the years are represented by the same agency, the same agency that represents Keith and Flicker. Can't then blame folk for stating what looks obvious.

 

Does anybody know a good supplier of brown envelopes ?

 

Then again, it's also well documented that players from the same agency as Roy Hodgson keep getting picked for England. I would imagine that a lot of that kind of thing goes on.

For example, back in the early 80s there was a strange transfer triangle which saw Clive Allen move from QPR to Arsenal, only to move to Palace in a swap deal for Kenny Sansom without ever playing a game for Arsenal. However, when you learn that all three deals were brokered by an agency apparently headed by Terry Venables' missus does it all become clear!

Edit: Actually, it's more than just player agencies that have a hand in this sort of thing. Sponsors are becoming just as powerful. They pay a club, or a national federation x amount, and expect to see y number of players associated with their company being represented in said team. Then, all of a sudden, teams like Manchester United, who are trying make commercial inroads into a far eastern country, suddenly sign someone from that country.

All part of the reason that football now stinks!

 

Exactly, it's nothing new and I don't see any issue in discussing it.

 

oh you are in for a surprise how average jim can be. lets just say he wasn't getting in the Bury team by the end of the season in the league below.

 

A point that those who write a lot should know, there are facts and there is speculation. Nothing wrong saying have same agents if factual. You should know saying taking 'backhanders' is a different level. Anyway was making a point if it helped anyone think of editing their post.